George Knapp

You and I and Jeremy know they're only going to be satisfied with somebody says, we've got 12 land saucers, we got 18 bodies, and here they are.

You know, anything short of that, people will be pissed off about it.

And

Can you imagine a time when something will be released publicly that goes beyond you being able to say, there's a craft, we got inside of it, we got at least one, and being able to say, yeah, there was a planned transfer of material, unusual material, to Bigelow Aerospace?

Would you predict that that will go further at some point?

Would you say it's likely to happen now under this administration that says they're going to release the files?

That's never happened before, Pierre, right?

Back to the idea of disclosure.

You know, the public has its ideas of what disclosure should be.

The president has issued a directive.

It's not an executive authority, has no authority behind it to declassify what most certainly is classified materials, files and videos and things of that sort, the OSAP materials.

So taken together, these four books are the closest we are to actual disclosure, given that everything you've written has been authorized by the various people and agencies in the process.

Is there concern, if you think forward in what disclosure and the forms it could take, whatever Trump and his agencies might reveal in the future, and we have no idea what that might be, are you concerned about disruption of human civilization, of religions freaking out, of people rioting in the streets, the stock market crumbling from anything that you suspect could be released but hasn't yet to be released?

Meaning because nobody really knows the ultimate answer.

Not even our government.

Nuclear missile sites.

is the ultimate, you've been optimistic in previous conversations, you know, about where this could lead in terms of human potential, not nuts and bolts.

I am.

And how many are here to dissuade people from believing it, that they're assigned to attack it and cast doubt about it.

Yeah, I think the interesting thing for him is, first, a legal one.