George Knapp

There will never be another OSAP, nothing that broad, but at least one element of Kona Blue is going forward.

We just don't know what it is.

Right.

He probably cannot say for national security reasons.

Yeah.

Right.

Exactly.

I mean, we don't want him to go to prison for crossing a line.

So...

Yeah, he is meticulous for sure.

And then, you know, obviously he's also shared with us before that he's dropping some breadcrumbs here.

He wants us to fill in the blanks in some of the things that he shared with us.

And I think he's discouraged many times because people are not paying attention.

They want data.

Here's some.

And they don't pay any attention to it.

He's, you know, connecting dots.

sometimes subtly, and it goes right over people's heads.

And I imagine that it gets frustrating for him and he wonders, why am I bothering with it?

And I think bottom line in other conversations that you and I've had with him is that there is a glimmer of hope in all of this that he's shared with us, that there is something about human potential that gets revealed as a bottom line in all this kind of research that we haven't had him express to us in specific terms.