George Saunders
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And then we turn and we do something else.
I think it's just pervasive.
It's one of the reasons our politics is the way it is.
I mean, our president calls a reporter a pig.
And some percentage of people say, well, I know.
I would never do that.
I would never.
I have a wife.
I have a daughter.
Never would I call a person a pig.
However, then we turn.
So I think this is, again, this is just a first thought, but I'm interested in the way that we can
know very well that certain enlightenment values are true and important, and make an excuse, sometimes it's shareholder value, to turn and look away from us.
It's easier, yeah.
Or, you know, there's also, I mean, isn't it a drag to have to say in a scolding tone,
I don't do that.
Or that strikes me as low.
I think maybe starting back with reality TV, we lost our ability to say, that's toxic and I don't want it.
And so we say, well, it's toxic, but I'm not going to be a prig.
Does that resonate with you at all?