George Saunders

There were places where literally no human being had ever set foot.

And we would send in these local crews to go in and cut these very thin trails.

And then there would be two pieces of bamboo nailed together.

So you had to walk on that.

And there were tigers and monkeys and very, very adventurous.

I wouldn't say guilt because I was so bad at it.

And what I was doing was such a small part.

But what I did use was the...

The joy of that experience, because it was you were in sort of a tribe of specialists.

I'd never been out of the country at that point.

So I'm in this exotic location.

I felt like I was Indiana Jones or something.

And so I can see very easily where that experience, which is so positive in a certain way, would make you solidify against any criticism.

Because it was my life and I was doing it and these were my friends.

So I use the righteousness to the mission.

Yes.

Right.

And so I use that to make the kind of foundation for his worldview.

Almost true.

I was a doorman in Beverly Hills.