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George Saunders

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2018 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

End of objections from El Kiddo.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

Your choice, Jacques.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

Dying in the back of a horse cart stuck in the mud or zinging toward help, air con blasting.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

Anyone with a lick of sense would choose the latter.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

We had.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

The world had.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

That was what was so damn stupid about it.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

People forgot the empty larder, forgot drought, forgot famine, forgot what it was like to be at the mercy of the world.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

Forgot what it was like to be at the mercy of the world.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

Well, there was a time when I was in my 20s that my dad had a restaurant and it burned down.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

So things were rough.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

And we were living in Texas.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

And I just got that first sense that in our country, if things got tough below a certain level,

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

nobody was coming, you know, except your friends and family.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

And that landed on me.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

I mean, I was kind of a upbeat, optimistic, at that time Ayn Rand kind of guy, but still it landed.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

And then many years later, when we had our family, you know, we didn't have any money saved.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

We were just kind of going paycheck to paycheck.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

That feeling kind of came back almost like a flashback.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

Oh God, you know, for all of the kind of surface glitter of the culture,