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George Saunders

πŸ‘€ Speaker
2546 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

Maybe I lived out of alignment with truth.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

And at that point, he begins this rapid transformation.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

Salvation in that moment is aligning yourself with what is actually true.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

The truth is you lived your life in the wrong way.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

And at some point he says, all right, I can't go back in time, but I can start now, essentially.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

I can start being in alignment with truth.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

I didn't live in the right way.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

And you can feel the pain start to go out of him as soon.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

So the idea that there's physical suffering is,

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

And then there's the suffering of denial on top of it.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

You know, and we all know that.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

Like if your leg hurts, but you can't let it hurt, it kind of hurts more, you know?

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

So I think that's what in the book, the Frenchman correctly posits that if they could just get Boone to say, yeah, I lied.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

I really did.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

I'm sorry.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

That that would represent a better state of being for him than the one in which he actually dies and which he continues to deny it.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

So that's the truth.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

I think there has to be, yeah.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

You have to be in relation to what you actually did.

The Ezra Klein Show
George Saunders on Anger, Ambition and Sin

So sin, I mean, it's a word I brought from my Catholic childhood.