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George Sivulka

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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why All AI Companies Are Under-Valued | The Future of Foundation Models: Scaling Laws, Generalised vs Specialised, Commoditised? | From Unable to Afford Rent to Raising $130M From Index and Peter Thiel with George Sivulka @ Hebbia

And maybe I'm too techno-optimist, but I actually think the S&P 500 is completely- $100 trillion of additional.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why All AI Companies Are Under-Valued | The Future of Foundation Models: Scaling Laws, Generalised vs Specialised, Commoditised? | From Unable to Afford Rent to Raising $130M From Index and Peter Thiel with George Sivulka @ Hebbia

And maybe I'm too techno-optimist, but I actually think the S&P 500 is completely- $100 trillion of additional.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why All AI Companies Are Under-Valued | The Future of Foundation Models: Scaling Laws, Generalised vs Specialised, Commoditised? | From Unable to Afford Rent to Raising $130M From Index and Peter Thiel with George Sivulka @ Hebbia

And maybe I'm too techno-optimist, but I actually think the S&P 500 is completely- $100 trillion of additional.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why All AI Companies Are Under-Valued | The Future of Foundation Models: Scaling Laws, Generalised vs Specialised, Commoditised? | From Unable to Afford Rent to Raising $130M From Index and Peter Thiel with George Sivulka @ Hebbia

I ultimately genuinely believe that more than 50% of the GDP will be contributed by what you can call agentic applications in the next few decades. Yeah. I actually think it'll happen faster than the next few decades. Do you?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why All AI Companies Are Under-Valued | The Future of Foundation Models: Scaling Laws, Generalised vs Specialised, Commoditised? | From Unable to Afford Rent to Raising $130M From Index and Peter Thiel with George Sivulka @ Hebbia

I ultimately genuinely believe that more than 50% of the GDP will be contributed by what you can call agentic applications in the next few decades. Yeah. I actually think it'll happen faster than the next few decades. Do you?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why All AI Companies Are Under-Valued | The Future of Foundation Models: Scaling Laws, Generalised vs Specialised, Commoditised? | From Unable to Afford Rent to Raising $130M From Index and Peter Thiel with George Sivulka @ Hebbia

I ultimately genuinely believe that more than 50% of the GDP will be contributed by what you can call agentic applications in the next few decades. Yeah. I actually think it'll happen faster than the next few decades. Do you?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why All AI Companies Are Under-Valued | The Future of Foundation Models: Scaling Laws, Generalised vs Specialised, Commoditised? | From Unable to Afford Rent to Raising $130M From Index and Peter Thiel with George Sivulka @ Hebbia

It's a good point if you're cutting cost, which I think Daniel and UiPath are one of the best examples of using AI to make companies more efficient. If you look at finance and how fast Excel went to 90% market penetration in finance, 1985 to 1986, literally 18 months to 24 months, Excel took over all of finance. Everyone switched from using a calculator, the HP-12C, to using Excel.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why All AI Companies Are Under-Valued | The Future of Foundation Models: Scaling Laws, Generalised vs Specialised, Commoditised? | From Unable to Afford Rent to Raising $130M From Index and Peter Thiel with George Sivulka @ Hebbia

It's a good point if you're cutting cost, which I think Daniel and UiPath are one of the best examples of using AI to make companies more efficient. If you look at finance and how fast Excel went to 90% market penetration in finance, 1985 to 1986, literally 18 months to 24 months, Excel took over all of finance. Everyone switched from using a calculator, the HP-12C, to using Excel.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why All AI Companies Are Under-Valued | The Future of Foundation Models: Scaling Laws, Generalised vs Specialised, Commoditised? | From Unable to Afford Rent to Raising $130M From Index and Peter Thiel with George Sivulka @ Hebbia

It's a good point if you're cutting cost, which I think Daniel and UiPath are one of the best examples of using AI to make companies more efficient. If you look at finance and how fast Excel went to 90% market penetration in finance, 1985 to 1986, literally 18 months to 24 months, Excel took over all of finance. Everyone switched from using a calculator, the HP-12C, to using Excel.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why All AI Companies Are Under-Valued | The Future of Foundation Models: Scaling Laws, Generalised vs Specialised, Commoditised? | From Unable to Afford Rent to Raising $130M From Index and Peter Thiel with George Sivulka @ Hebbia

And if you look at how fast finance actually ended up, you know, using credit card data to value public companies ahead of their earnings, that was, again, a two year period more recently. And so finance is the slowest moving, most lethargic, you know, leviath. It's the worst possible customer base to go after unless you're providing outsized alpha or real value.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why All AI Companies Are Under-Valued | The Future of Foundation Models: Scaling Laws, Generalised vs Specialised, Commoditised? | From Unable to Afford Rent to Raising $130M From Index and Peter Thiel with George Sivulka @ Hebbia

And if you look at how fast finance actually ended up, you know, using credit card data to value public companies ahead of their earnings, that was, again, a two year period more recently. And so finance is the slowest moving, most lethargic, you know, leviath. It's the worst possible customer base to go after unless you're providing outsized alpha or real value.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why All AI Companies Are Under-Valued | The Future of Foundation Models: Scaling Laws, Generalised vs Specialised, Commoditised? | From Unable to Afford Rent to Raising $130M From Index and Peter Thiel with George Sivulka @ Hebbia

And if you look at how fast finance actually ended up, you know, using credit card data to value public companies ahead of their earnings, that was, again, a two year period more recently. And so finance is the slowest moving, most lethargic, you know, leviath. It's the worst possible customer base to go after unless you're providing outsized alpha or real value.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why All AI Companies Are Under-Valued | The Future of Foundation Models: Scaling Laws, Generalised vs Specialised, Commoditised? | From Unable to Afford Rent to Raising $130M From Index and Peter Thiel with George Sivulka @ Hebbia

In which case, the minute that there's something real, finance moves faster than any other industry. And so I'm actually making a bit of a bet by going into finance and starting to go out and try to get to my own. You know what I worry about? I worry that we lose the education process.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why All AI Companies Are Under-Valued | The Future of Foundation Models: Scaling Laws, Generalised vs Specialised, Commoditised? | From Unable to Afford Rent to Raising $130M From Index and Peter Thiel with George Sivulka @ Hebbia

In which case, the minute that there's something real, finance moves faster than any other industry. And so I'm actually making a bit of a bet by going into finance and starting to go out and try to get to my own. You know what I worry about? I worry that we lose the education process.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why All AI Companies Are Under-Valued | The Future of Foundation Models: Scaling Laws, Generalised vs Specialised, Commoditised? | From Unable to Afford Rent to Raising $130M From Index and Peter Thiel with George Sivulka @ Hebbia

In which case, the minute that there's something real, finance moves faster than any other industry. And so I'm actually making a bit of a bet by going into finance and starting to go out and try to get to my own. You know what I worry about? I worry that we lose the education process.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why All AI Companies Are Under-Valued | The Future of Foundation Models: Scaling Laws, Generalised vs Specialised, Commoditised? | From Unable to Afford Rent to Raising $130M From Index and Peter Thiel with George Sivulka @ Hebbia

Yeah, I'm less worried about that. I think ultimately one of the best things about having the years of experience is actually having the depth of knowledge about investing. So for example, if I'm a junior trying to price an asset, I haven't seen that many other companies that look like this company.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why All AI Companies Are Under-Valued | The Future of Foundation Models: Scaling Laws, Generalised vs Specialised, Commoditised? | From Unable to Afford Rent to Raising $130M From Index and Peter Thiel with George Sivulka @ Hebbia

Yeah, I'm less worried about that. I think ultimately one of the best things about having the years of experience is actually having the depth of knowledge about investing. So for example, if I'm a junior trying to price an asset, I haven't seen that many other companies that look like this company.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why All AI Companies Are Under-Valued | The Future of Foundation Models: Scaling Laws, Generalised vs Specialised, Commoditised? | From Unable to Afford Rent to Raising $130M From Index and Peter Thiel with George Sivulka @ Hebbia

Yeah, I'm less worried about that. I think ultimately one of the best things about having the years of experience is actually having the depth of knowledge about investing. So for example, if I'm a junior trying to price an asset, I haven't seen that many other companies that look like this company.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why All AI Companies Are Under-Valued | The Future of Foundation Models: Scaling Laws, Generalised vs Specialised, Commoditised? | From Unable to Afford Rent to Raising $130M From Index and Peter Thiel with George Sivulka @ Hebbia

And so I might say, hey, I think it should be priced at X, Y, or Z. And then someone in the IC meeting will be like, hey, no, I've seen 20 other companies in my 40 years of career that look exactly like this. And they all went nowhere. And I'm leaning on my prior experience.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why All AI Companies Are Under-Valued | The Future of Foundation Models: Scaling Laws, Generalised vs Specialised, Commoditised? | From Unable to Afford Rent to Raising $130M From Index and Peter Thiel with George Sivulka @ Hebbia

And so I might say, hey, I think it should be priced at X, Y, or Z. And then someone in the IC meeting will be like, hey, no, I've seen 20 other companies in my 40 years of career that look exactly like this. And they all went nowhere. And I'm leaning on my prior experience.