Georgie Crawford

And after a while, I was like, oh, my God, who is this Karen Reid person?

And that was the day that I was hooked.

From then on, I followed this trial.

Like with Alec Murdoch, a lot of it is on YouTube.

There's so many documentaries about it.

And I think because...

similar to Alex Murdoch, like it's a story that is just so unbelievable.

And we were just saying before we hit record, is full of so many villains.

And so you could debate this for hours and hours and still not figure out who killed John O'Keefe by the end of it.

Yeah, and I suppose in newsroom and in journalism and everything that I studied for my entire life, the whole objective is to stay balanced and neutral.

But that doesn't seem to apply to Americans.

And they really do pick a side, don't they?

100%.

Yeah.

So if you've never heard of this case, strap yourself in.

If you followed it from the beginning, I'm sure you've forgotten loads of it.

Today, we're going to give you an overview of it and then let you off into the wild to make up your own decision.

But it is

Absolutely fascinating from start to finish.

So let's start with John O'Keefe, the man at the centre of it all.