Georgie

Especially when you are, okay, so from my experience of interviewing people, if you're interviewing say the girl next door about a breakup or a life-changing event and you bring her to a studio, there is the potential for someone to absolutely freak out because it's so alien.

And then putting someone who's in showbiz into a studio,

they almost, without even realizing, like you say, I put on my radio voice.

You know, you become that character of yourself.

And so Ryan has been so used to being in studios for his entire life that I wanted to bring him here because he is a different version of himself.

And I didn't want him to slip back into showbiz, Ryan, even though

I think he's got he's so professional and so used to being in studio that maybe that's not the case with him.

But a lot of the feedback I got on this podcast and the feedback is so important to me was this is the most relaxed we've seen Ryan.

I loved how honest and honest.

close your conversation was you both seemed very relaxed like that was all the feedback and that was the intention and I did say on the main podcast that I would tell you about the present I bought for Ryan so Jamie can I tell the story yeah sure sure

Pear and almond tart.

There was a few, few little things.

not to eat in our house either.

I wanted Ryan to go home, have his Friday night that he loves, his little bag of cans that he was talking about on the podcast and eat his pear and almond pie in absolute peace.

Yes.

So when you did open the bag, I was like, not every single thing is about you.

There was a new man who was the centre of my life on Friday.

So we came in, Jamie told him I make a nice flat white.

I had the machine on, made him a flat white.

We sat down, we pressed record.