Gerald Butts

It includes mutual security and intelligence sharing and gathering.

It includes working together on huge issues that are going to have a material impact on the pocketbooks and the daily lives of regular Canadians.

And I think when you look around the world at mature markets, rich markets that could use more of our stuff and more of our participation,

and the European Union for a variety of really obvious reasons, some of which you alluded to our shared cultural history and the fact that so many Canadians can trace their lineage back to different parts of Europe, all the way up to the advantageous geography.

The Atlantic Ocean is

a third the size of the pacific ocean and it's europe's a lot closer than asia and if you consider europe one market then it's the side depending on your metric the second or largest second or third largest market in the world so all of those things point toward

telling giving the prime minister signals that he should keep doing what he's doing i think the danger long term is that it looks like we're trading putting all of our eggs in one basket for putting all of our eggs in another basket and he's got a guard against that and to make sure he's got a hedge with the countries he's been doing um work with in asia and in the middle east and to make sure that you keep all of those things in balance but

Look, I don't see anything but upside and greater, closer ties with Europe from just about every dimension.

I agree.

Yeah, I think it is the realism view of Canada that the most important

has been is and always will be our a 9 000 kilometer border with the united states and uh if you've if you don't manage that relationship well you will be a failure as a government and if you manage it well you're well on your way to success i think that's uh that's

and Canadian life as there is.

I will, however, say as a bit of a qualifier and to use those two to six million barrels as an example, in the United States over the same time period, they went from about three and a half million barrels to about 14, right?

And I often say this to our erasure group clients, one of the most underappreciated

in the 21st century anywhere is the United States becoming the world's largest exporter of oil and gas for the first time since the 1940s, right?

And

we should be thinking about our own resource development in that context.

Because the truth is, and we saw it live last week, we're having this debate about which, or maybe we build both, but which pipeline we should prioritize, a second one to the West Coast, or should we re-disinter KXL, the Keystone pipeline, and try and make that happen?

Well, there's a limited amount of capital, energy, labor, et cetera, that could

national interest of the country, should you prioritize another pipeline to the United States or one to markets in Asia?