Gerard Barron

You know, the world wanted to be involved in cool new industries, but when it comes down to it, if you, if it ain't grown its mind.

And so,

You can't just dream up a land-based mine.

They don't just appear out of nowhere.

And all of the obvious ones were found and developed.

So that's why if you look at about half of our revenue comes from nickel.

And 100% of the growth in nickel supply over the last seven years has come from what we call rainforest nickel.

And to get to it, you've got to remove the rainforest to dig up this material called nickel laterite.

And of course, we're not talking about anything other than pristine, beautiful rainforests, which are filled with indigenous people in some cases, certainly filled with enormous amount of biodiversity and biomass.

filled with cute, cuddly animals.

And, you know, led by China, it's just, you know, bulldozing it out of the way.

And that's the beginning of the impacts, you know, because you... To process that material comes with a host of impacts.

The waste material gets spilt into rivers and oceans and...

Kills off the local industry the fishing industries and you know, I mean To your listeners just punch into your favorite search engine rainforest nickel and you know, I've I've had the first had experience of witnessing, you know in one particular region it was in Indonesia actually where 10 years ago

there were no people focused on nickel mining.

We visited there, my team and I, maybe three years ago.

This town of 70,000 people had been built all focused on nickel mining.

Like 70,000 people.

70,000 people.

That's a lot of people.