Gerard Barron

the biggest supplier of nickel and cobalt and manganese and a big exporter of it as well.

And so it's a massive turnaround and that's going to lead to tremendous GDP growth.

It's going to lead to

New companies being formed, new jobs being formed, new industries to support those industries.

It's a massive knock-on impact.

But it's only possible if you've got the kahunas to say, this is how we've got to turn this around.

We've got to get things back on a level playing ground.

I've got to tell you, when President Trump started talking tariffs...

You know, it was like, it's going to be interesting to see how this plays out.

But I got to say, it's working out pretty well.

It's working out pretty well.

it's not just what companies, but it's the efficiencies of redesigning new industrial process.

And if we think about manganese, for example, there are two ways of treating our nodules.

You either dissolve them in acid or you use heat.

Now, actually, because of parts of America's abundant supply of affordable energy,

which is ironic, right?

I mean, energy is the cornerstone of a healthy industrializing economy.

You need energy.

And of course, that's why parts of Europe are de-industrializing because they can't compete.

But America has it.