Gerard Waitley

Me doing that course got me the job at West Coast is what I'm saying.

I don't think you'd keep doing it, would you, once you got the job?

No, no, they will.

Yeah, well, good luck.

They might.

Yeah, I'm not sure you'll continue to do it once you're actually doing it, Ken.

Get you ready.

Yeah, to be a senior coach.

Well, there's not... Other than the exposure around... Like, I think one thing... I was pretty naive, Ken.

I'm not sure what you were like when we first started.

But managing up's important.

As much as you love the X's and O's and you love the players and your assistant coaches, but how to manage a department, how to manage a board...

how to deal with the media and crisis management, all those type of things.

The only thing I can probably do is work through the awareness piece and some stories you might hear, but until you're actually in the chair, it's difficult, isn't it, Ken?

Yeah, absolutely.

Probably the most important piece, Tom.

So it's good.

They've been doing a level four, but this looks like it's a revamped extra level.

It is, yeah.

Which is a real positive because finding the next, you know, three or four senior coaches.