Gerard Whateley

I was just curious whether your mind has been ticking over on this front as to what an adequate process for Essendon in particular might look like.

Yes.

So it's not the easiest task because of all that swirls around it.

And some of it is unquestionably real and some of it I'm sure is imposed and maybe even a little bit imagined.

It's not the easiest, like satisfying the outside world is not their priority.

But to some degree, they are going to get hung if they don't satisfy the outside world that they went through the right process.

Phil, great to pick your brain.

Giants, Carlton's a big game, isn't it?

All right.

Enjoy.

Terrific to chat.

Thanks, Jared.

The eminently sensible Phil Davis with us every Wednesday.

last week you delved really well into Collingwood Forest.

So I just had sort of an addendum question.

It was at the heart of the overall conversation.

And I'm grappling with the idea of

the notion that Collingwood has to stay in contention because they have Nick Dacos and whether that's actually the wrong way around or because they have Nick Dacos, they should build a team that then is in contention.

I was just curious how that proposition occurs to you.

So does Lockie Neal make sense to you for Collingwood?