Gerard Whateley

So my issue is that the draw looks okay for them.

Would your inclination be to go, let's do this?

Let's make the run a 10th?

Absolutely, it would be.

I mean, that's the coach.

Josh can say what he wants publicly, but I know how he'd probably be thinking and feeling underneath.

I think he'd be going, well, why not?

Why not?

Even if this isn't...

My next step, Gerard, it's a great stepping stone to my next step, whatever happens in this situation, a no-lose situation for Josh.

That's what I would say.

And the attitude of why not, why not make a run is a fascinating attitude to take because it –

It gives you all sorts of outcomes in some ways.

It could be a crazy, crazy story to talk about at round 24, couldn't it, if we're sitting there going, well, Carlton are now playing the Gold Coast Suns in the wildcard round.

It's 7th or 7th v 10th or 8th v 9th.

It's going to be a fascinating chat if we get to that stage for Josh.

So what do you think of the –

The feedback of the players, no, let's just stay in the moment rather than, yeah, bloody oath, let's have a run at this.

That's a party line, isn't it, Jared?

That's a party line, isn't it?