Gerard

And for Fremantle, so they haven't won at the Gabba for a decade, which is a little bit skewed.

They've lost four in a row and not recently, not while they've been on this rise.

And the last time they won there was when they were one of the two best teams in the competition.

So there's a self-evidence to some of that, but this is a big piece of their season.

There are no inhibitors to James Heard being the coach at Essendon, and nor should there be from headquarters.

So just take that completely off the table.

How have you found the week observing at Essendon as a relative newbie on our side of the fence?

What's it got to do with boats?

Ask AI.

Okay, well.

I think what makes this particular and peculiar is the fan base.

And this is why I do think it would be worthwhile.

If I was at Essendon, I would try to measure the exact sentiment, not the radio sentiment, not the newspaper sentiment, the actual sentiment.

Because if you appoint somebody, if you run a process and somebody beats James Heard.

Yep.

Are you alienating 85% of your fan base?

And that can never work.

That happened four years ago.

James Heard went for the- It was different four years ago.

Why?