Gergely Orosz

And you saw that Andropic just blocked, you know, like, a lot of code secretions before you knew that this press would happen.

Like, was it team's reaction?

Was it just like, stay calm, keep going?

I'm starting to get a sense that that past 10-ish years of building dev tools or at least five of open source and understanding dynamics is really helping.

Because even when you told me about how you were thinking of open code, you're talking about strategy, about how there was this gap and there's all these competing model providers and with an open alternative over time,

In a lot of ecosystems, the open one wins and the vendors compete, for example, with Linux.

Linux is open source, but the distributions are for-profit companies, Red Hat, Ubuntu, or Canonical, and so on.

And they all compete and they make it better.

So even in this case, it sounds like you...

It all goes back to you actually had a strategy that you expected that if the vendors play as they play, it will make sense.

Yeah.

And then right now, Codex came forward, they saw it as a way to increase brand awareness, usage, etc.

Right now, they're sharing like how much is growing.

And I'm sure logically, at some point, they might turn around at some point, say, let's say they win the market, or they become market leaders, they might do the same thing, okay, we no longer want to support this thing.

But at that point, there might be other players as long as there's multiple interested parties.

And going back to why open code is so successful and that there was a gap using what you've learned about dev tools in general, like why was there a gap?

What do you think

was the difference that you did outside of just writing the tool to start with?

And to get into the inverse strategies, the technical level, you launched with a framework called Tauri, right?

But open code is growing amazingly fast.