Gergely Orosz

So like this was a few months ago, I think two or three months ago when you wrote it.

Yeah, I think there's so many dimensions to this.

How do you think companies, like let's say a mid-sized company or even a small company might have to rethink kind of motivation, compensation, thinking about work now that, you know, like I was talking with Steve Yegge about this on how an engineer could, if they're super motivated and they put in the task and energy, they can produce a lot more output.

And if it's well-directed, that could be better business results.

But it does come at a huge cost

costs and energy.

And again, if you're just being paid by the same paycheck, it doesn't necessarily make as much sense to do so.

So I'm wondering, what kind of early thoughts you have so far?

And of course, for you guys in a startup, I guess it might be a bit easier.

And I wonder if it's a thing where it is hard to retrofit this technology and the way of working to existing structures, which have been... And I guess the question goes back to how much will the...

ai native startup like yours or ones that are starting today change like how will their workflows change the type of work even the roles right like what does the software engineer even do in terms of okay of course they prompt ai to write code but what about product what about all these other things yeah yeah i mean yeah i think the bottlenecks are still there they're still figuring out what you should be doing you can spend a year just figuring out the right thing to do and then once you figure it out maybe it's fast to actually build it but

Another observation you made is at a lot of companies, and you will, I guess, see this secondhand from OpenCoach being...

So they're just gonna say, go back to typing out the code.

It's also an interesting dynamic where there's also the pressure of, well, when everyone else is doing it, even if we just stick with the happier analogy, and again, let's assume that the quality of the output overall wouldn't change.

If everyone else is doing it,

you're like, okay, well, it's not worth it.

Let's stop it.

Then your best engineers will leave.

So I'm also hearing some CTO saying like, well, we're giving access to better tools because we're one of the best companies.

Like it would look silly if we said like, oh, you can only use, I don't know, GitHub Copilot.