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Then over time, we just saw more and more problems pop up with marijuana legalization.

I mean, we've seen a sharp increase in daily users.

More people now use pot daily in the U.S.

than use alcohol daily.

And that is a dramatic shift.

And we've seen increases in addiction.

We've seen increases in people going to ERs and reporting what's called cannabinoid hyperemis syndrome, which we'll just say CHS.

But it's like really violent nausea.

Like it's not at all pleasant.

And I think from a basic standpoint, you know, if you think about a functioning society, I don't have problems with somebody smoking a joint every weekend or whatever it might be.

But somebody who's spending every single day stoned is just going to be a less productive member of society.

And that I think it's something that we should worry about when we see those daily increase numbers.

Just to punctuate one thing that David and you have said, Emily, is on this addiction point, I mean, you still see people who really are skeptical that you can get addicted.

And I would just point out that when you look at the data on this, it is people saying on their own in national surveys that they have a problem with marijuana.

They are basically saying that they want to stop using but cannot, and it's causing problems in their lives.

Yeah, it comes from Mark Kleiman, a criminologist.

He used to write a lot on these issues.

If you read any book on criminal justice, I think it should be When Brute Force Fails by Mark Kleiman.

And he was just looking at this topic of, well, we clearly don't like this punitive war on drugs, but we also don't like the idea of everybody just getting addicted to all these drugs.