Germano Tomassetti

But this new group, they're focusing on Europe and they're focusing on further down south in South America.

So they decided Ecuador is the spot we're going to do this.

And in Ecuador at the time, there was no cartels.

There was gangs, really big street gangs that ran a lot of the streets and prison, but they did not have the funding resources, nothing like that in Ecuador.

So this new group went in there, decided to help them out.

And unfortunately, at the peak of it, my wife, ex-wife, decides to move there because she has family there.

So it's gotten a little bit better recently over the last couple of months.

But when she first moved there,

like the city was locked down.

You couldn't leave your house because they were trying to round up all these guys and send them to jail.

Right.

Okay.

Okay.

So it's really funny that you ask because two days ago in my mind,

This is what I think is happening.

The new group that we're talking about right now.

I think that they're completely behind that being politically backed.

So I guess that you've had recently was kind of going into this and there's the old group and the new group and the new group has a better relationship.

What I'm, what I'm told with the new president.

Yeah, who was the leader, right?