Gideon Lewis-Kraus

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557 appearances 2 recordings 2 series first heard Feb 2026 last heard 27 Feb

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So to kind of go back to the beginning of this, which I think makes it all make a little more sense in context.
So now almost 10 years ago, when I was at the Times Magazine, back in kind of like the Paleolithic of deep learning, I did this story about Google Brain and about the implementation of deep learning in like the first consumer product, which was when they switched over their Google Translate to neural machine translation.
I was interested in it as like a story about ideas that like there were these ideas about language and about learning and about consciousness and about like philosophy of mind that had been around for at least seven years, kind of depending on how you count.
And without like getting into those, there was just like an interesting story for me about like the trajectory of an idea there.
So I paid attention to AI and the rise of language models.
And I think I'm like the only person in the world who the minute ChatGPT came out was when I kind of stopped paying attention.
Because like to me, that was when the public discourse felt like really broken and that we were like in this cul-de-sac.
where you had these kind of like two really entrenched sides yelling at each other.
You know, like the one side that's like, we're on a path to super intelligence.
Everything is going to change.
The machines are going to be conscious.
This is going to be the most powerful technology anybody's ever built.
And then the other side that was like, essentially, it's all fake and bullshit.
This is like smoke and mirrors.
It's a parlor trick.
It's not real.
And you don't have to pay attention to it because it's all a scam.
And it just felt like those were kind of like the two options on the table for people.
Up until ChatGPT.
And that was when I stopped thinking about it.
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