Gilbert Cruz

It's quite good.

Absolutely.

The historical fiction fan.

Dads who like reading about World War II.

These are all appropriate categories.

Sadie, you have another novel that you really love this year.

Now, in part of this book, the main character, as you sort of alluded to but didn't directly lay out, becomes involved with someone who is a couple decades older than him.

What would you say to someone who's like, I am not interested in reading about that?

There will be no more specific reference made on this episode.

And that is Playworld by Adam Ross.

Sadie, I want you to talk about a piece of nonfiction that honestly...

I think most of the desk the book review was obsessed with.

It was it is a book called A Marriage at Sea.

Which is the opposite of so many of the big fiction books that we've been talking about.

This is a slim piece of nonfiction telling a story that happened in the 70s.

And it is beautiful.

What's it about?

Absolutely.

Am I Morris or am I Marilyn?

There's no world in which I want you to guess who I am.