Gina Barton
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The actual suspect, Marshawn Curtis, she seems very friendly and tells him that basically she believes him before she's even started talking to him. So I have a clip from that conversation that I'd like to share.
The actual suspect, Marshawn Curtis, she seems very friendly and tells him that basically she believes him before she's even started talking to him. So I have a clip from that conversation that I'd like to share.
Every time Detective Harrison turned around, she found something else. And the most heartbreaking thing, of course, is that he had been accused of rape in 2012 and wasn't taken to trial then, wasn't held accountable. And then eight years later, 800 miles away from Michigan in Georgia, another woman had accused him of rape. There were other things too that she found in his background.
Every time Detective Harrison turned around, she found something else. And the most heartbreaking thing, of course, is that he had been accused of rape in 2012 and wasn't taken to trial then, wasn't held accountable. And then eight years later, 800 miles away from Michigan in Georgia, another woman had accused him of rape. There were other things too that she found in his background.
About a month after the first rape complaint in 2012, he was 19 at the time, and he had sex with a 15-year-old, got her pregnant, which would be illegal on its face because she was not old enough to consent, but no charges there. He followed a woman home from a bar one night at Michigan State, and as he's walking with her, he starts masturbating on the street.
About a month after the first rape complaint in 2012, he was 19 at the time, and he had sex with a 15-year-old, got her pregnant, which would be illegal on its face because she was not old enough to consent, but no charges there. He followed a woman home from a bar one night at Michigan State, and as he's walking with her, he starts masturbating on the street.
He had a lot of issues with exposing himself to women, planting cameras in public restrooms, just a lot of behavior that was very disturbing, even though it wasn't a physical assault.
He had a lot of issues with exposing himself to women, planting cameras in public restrooms, just a lot of behavior that was very disturbing, even though it wasn't a physical assault.
I think it's really important that as journalists, we are also cognizant of trauma that victims have been through. And the last thing that I want to do is make things harder for them or traumatize them any further by speaking with them, interviewing them by what I'm reporting or how it's reported.
I think it's really important that as journalists, we are also cognizant of trauma that victims have been through. And the last thing that I want to do is make things harder for them or traumatize them any further by speaking with them, interviewing them by what I'm reporting or how it's reported.
So we did take lots of steps in the show to make sure that the victims were all comfortable with not only whether their names were used, but with how their words were going to be used, what the context is, what quotes we were using.
So we did take lots of steps in the show to make sure that the victims were all comfortable with not only whether their names were used, but with how their words were going to be used, what the context is, what quotes we were using.
And in fact, one of the victims who plays a key role in the story, Jocelyn Phillips from Michigan, said it was okay if we used her name, but she did not want us to use her voice. So instead, we used transcripts and we had an actor read her part.
And in fact, one of the victims who plays a key role in the story, Jocelyn Phillips from Michigan, said it was okay if we used her name, but she did not want us to use her voice. So instead, we used transcripts and we had an actor read her part.
And so that allows her to be empowered to have her story shared, but to not have to go through having her voice out there, which she wasn't comfortable with. So that's just one example.
And so that allows her to be empowered to have her story shared, but to not have to go through having her voice out there, which she wasn't comfortable with. So that's just one example.
I think the biggest problem that we discovered when we investigated this is that a lot of agencies didn't really think about what to do after they tested the rape kit, right? They get a grant, they send the kits to the lab, they come up with the DNA profile, And then they don't do anything with it.
I think the biggest problem that we discovered when we investigated this is that a lot of agencies didn't really think about what to do after they tested the rape kit, right? They get a grant, they send the kits to the lab, they come up with the DNA profile, And then they don't do anything with it.
So in Michigan, where I focused my reporting for the show, they had a team that consisted of the detective, a prosecutor, and a victim advocate. And they made sure that for every rape kit that got tested, they went back and reinvestigated the case because just testing those kits really does no good if you don't do anything with the new evidence that you get.
So in Michigan, where I focused my reporting for the show, they had a team that consisted of the detective, a prosecutor, and a victim advocate. And they made sure that for every rape kit that got tested, they went back and reinvestigated the case because just testing those kits really does no good if you don't do anything with the new evidence that you get.