Ginni Rometty

And he's like, why?

And for me, it internalized this feeling that

And I am going to say something that's a bit stereotyped that it resonates with many, many women, and I'll ask you if it does after, is that they're the most harsh critic of themselves.

And so this idea that I won't grow unless I can feel uncomfortable doesn't mean I always have to show it, by the way.

So that's why I meant growth and comfort can never coexist.

Right.

I got – I was like, he's exactly right.

Now, the end of that story is I went in and I took the job.

When I went back to the man who was really my mentor looking out for me, and he looked at me and he said, don't ever do that again.

And I said, I understand.

Because it was okay to be uncomfortable.

I didn't have to use – I mean –

Now I would take stock of the things I can do, right?

And really think, or I look for times to be uncomfortable because I know if I am nervous, like, I don't know if you're nervous to meet me.

We never met in real person.

No, you're not.

But then you're, it means you're learning something, right?

So that to me matters.

Yeah, I think that's a good point.

Very good point.