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Gita Gopinath

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Gita Gopinath on Why Interest Rates Have Surged All Around the World

So those have been the typical paths.

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Gita Gopinath on Why Interest Rates Have Surged All Around the World

We've never had to worry about debt crises in developed economies.

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Gita Gopinath on Why Interest Rates Have Surged All Around the World

But now more and more, and I think this is also a new feature of the world we live in, is the developed world is moving into that space where their debt costs and their borrowing costs are far more volatile, far more sensitive to market conditions.

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Gita Gopinath on Why Interest Rates Have Surged All Around the World

I mean, the stock case is the UK, where you see that on a day-to-day basis.

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Gita Gopinath on Why Interest Rates Have Surged All Around the World

But, you know, you see that in other countries, too, in Europe and some of it in France and more generally, even Japan, where for the longest time we didn't have to worry about borrowing costs.

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Gita Gopinath on Why Interest Rates Have Surged All Around the World

Those have squarely moved up.

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Gita Gopinath on Why Interest Rates Have Surged All Around the World

The tenure rates have moved up.

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Gita Gopinath on Why Interest Rates Have Surged All Around the World

You know, Germany's tenure rates have moved up.

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Gita Gopinath on Why Interest Rates Have Surged All Around the World

So everywhere we are seeing developed economies also now having to face higher borrowing costs.

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Gita Gopinath on Why Interest Rates Have Surged All Around the World

The U.S., I think, is still...

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Gita Gopinath on Why Interest Rates Have Surged All Around the World

the exception in the sense that even though 10-year yields are at, say, 4.5% right now, just given the level of supply of debt and what's expected to come out in the future, markets are still treating it as giving it some privilege, even if it was not as big as it used to be in the past.

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Gita Gopinath on Why Interest Rates Have Surged All Around the World

A crisis in a developed economy would look more like a credit crunch that then leads into a financial crisis.

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Gita Gopinath on Why Interest Rates Have Surged All Around the World

So we would see a sharp increase

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Gita Gopinath on Why Interest Rates Have Surged All Around the World

in borrowing costs that will affect many other asset classes.

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Gita Gopinath on Why Interest Rates Have Surged All Around the World

You would see a slump in investment, the economy.

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Gita Gopinath on Why Interest Rates Have Surged All Around the World

So it's this debt overhang, the high levels of debt and that you have to roll over on a daily basis, that overhang, which slows growth, slows dynamism.

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Gita Gopinath on Why Interest Rates Have Surged All Around the World

That is what a typical crisis looks like.

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Gita Gopinath on Why Interest Rates Have Surged All Around the World

And yes, you can have financial crisis.

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Gita Gopinath on Why Interest Rates Have Surged All Around the World

One of the wonderful things about the last several years is despite all the shocks, we haven't had a financial crisis in the developed world or in any emerging market, any big emerging market.

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Gita Gopinath on Why Interest Rates Have Surged All Around the World

And that has been very helpful to bring back a fast recovery of the world economy every time after every shock.