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Gita Gopinath

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Gita Gopinath on Why Interest Rates Have Surged All Around the World

A few things changed.

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Gita Gopinath on Why Interest Rates Have Surged All Around the World

One, the AI boom was unexpected.

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Gita Gopinath on Why Interest Rates Have Surged All Around the World

That was not something that was

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Gita Gopinath on Why Interest Rates Have Surged All Around the World

being priced in markets pre-pandemic, for sure.

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Gita Gopinath on Why Interest Rates Have Surged All Around the World

That big increase in demand for capital coming from the private sector is one big change.

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Gita Gopinath on Why Interest Rates Have Surged All Around the World

The other big change is the fact that fiscal deficits are now projected to stay at levels that nobody was expecting the U.S.

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Gita Gopinath on Why Interest Rates Have Surged All Around the World

to run

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Gita Gopinath on Why Interest Rates Have Surged All Around the World

close to 7% fiscal deficits for the foreseeable future.

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Gita Gopinath on Why Interest Rates Have Surged All Around the World

That is another important factor.

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Gita Gopinath on Why Interest Rates Have Surged All Around the World

And the third is the composition of who's the marginal buyer of this debt.

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Gita Gopinath on Why Interest Rates Have Surged All Around the World

So we had a period when central banks everywhere were buying government debt, and that also helped keep interest rates low.

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Gita Gopinath on Why Interest Rates Have Surged All Around the World

In fact, that was part of the strategy of how to

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Gita Gopinath on Why Interest Rates Have Surged All Around the World

you know, strengthen the economy, quantitative easing was part of the toolkit.

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Gita Gopinath on Why Interest Rates Have Surged All Around the World

And so that helps keep interest rates low, but that's changed.

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Gita Gopinath on Why Interest Rates Have Surged All Around the World

And now we have the central banks everywhere who have either stopped buying or they're running it down like it's happening in Japan.

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Gita Gopinath on Why Interest Rates Have Surged All Around the World

And the marginal buyer are the more volatile investors.

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Gita Gopinath on Why Interest Rates Have Surged All Around the World

Hedge funds in the US are the market makers over here.

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Gita Gopinath on Why Interest Rates Have Surged All Around the World

And so whenever there are any shifts in global market conditions, you see a lot more rate sensitivity than you would have seen

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Gita Gopinath on Why Interest Rates Have Surged All Around the World

if it was mainly official credit flows.

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Gita Gopinath on Why Interest Rates Have Surged All Around the World

And by the way, that's also true about capital flows coming into the US.