Glen Phillips

And there was a point where I stopped fighting the agony in my back and I started becoming curious about other things. And the agony in my back, it's not always the case, but in this case it shifted. And I could pay attention to other things than the agony. And I still have... pins and needles. And it's weird to me. I don't know if it's the humidity or whatever, but it's not feeling good today.

And there was a point where I stopped fighting the agony in my back and I started becoming curious about other things. And the agony in my back, it's not always the case, but in this case it shifted. And I could pay attention to other things than the agony. And I still have... pins and needles. And it's weird to me. I don't know if it's the humidity or whatever, but it's not feeling good today.

And there was a point where I stopped fighting the agony in my back and I started becoming curious about other things. And the agony in my back, it's not always the case, but in this case it shifted. And I could pay attention to other things than the agony. And I still have... pins and needles. And it's weird to me. I don't know if it's the humidity or whatever, but it's not feeling good today.

And yet, I mostly pay attention to other things. And if I paid only attention to this, and I get to walk around with that reminder, and there's things that I let bug me. I let housing prices in California, especially trying to stay in Santa Barbara, which is, I don't think... Ridiculous.

And yet, I mostly pay attention to other things. And if I paid only attention to this, and I get to walk around with that reminder, and there's things that I let bug me. I let housing prices in California, especially trying to stay in Santa Barbara, which is, I don't think... Ridiculous.

And yet, I mostly pay attention to other things. And if I paid only attention to this, and I get to walk around with that reminder, and there's things that I let bug me. I let housing prices in California, especially trying to stay in Santa Barbara, which is, I don't think... Ridiculous.

Well, and so now if I hear somebody talking about remodeling their house, I have a weird PTSD kind of way. I have a physical reaction that I have to hide when I hear people talking about their remodel. And that's my problem. Everybody's got their load to carry. And I'm doing, literally after this, I go straight to Costa Rica. I'm doing song leading for a grief retreat. Wow.

Well, and so now if I hear somebody talking about remodeling their house, I have a weird PTSD kind of way. I have a physical reaction that I have to hide when I hear people talking about their remodel. And that's my problem. Everybody's got their load to carry. And I'm doing, literally after this, I go straight to Costa Rica. I'm doing song leading for a grief retreat. Wow.

Well, and so now if I hear somebody talking about remodeling their house, I have a weird PTSD kind of way. I have a physical reaction that I have to hide when I hear people talking about their remodel. And that's my problem. Everybody's got their load to carry. And I'm doing, literally after this, I go straight to Costa Rica. I'm doing song leading for a grief retreat. Wow.

It's 15 to 20 people, most of whom are there for bereavement. And it's people who feel ready to examine their grief. And the first two days are tons of tears, people telling their stories, people...

It's 15 to 20 people, most of whom are there for bereavement. And it's people who feel ready to examine their grief. And the first two days are tons of tears, people telling their stories, people...

It's 15 to 20 people, most of whom are there for bereavement. And it's people who feel ready to examine their grief. And the first two days are tons of tears, people telling their stories, people...

diving into the pain of it and the amazing thing about grief work when done together is that it helps number one for people to connect to other people who've had a similar pain because grief feels so singular and like no one can understand you just lost your house you know Who the hell could possibly understand that except the 10,000 other people you said who lost their lives?

diving into the pain of it and the amazing thing about grief work when done together is that it helps number one for people to connect to other people who've had a similar pain because grief feels so singular and like no one can understand you just lost your house you know Who the hell could possibly understand that except the 10,000 other people you said who lost their lives?

diving into the pain of it and the amazing thing about grief work when done together is that it helps number one for people to connect to other people who've had a similar pain because grief feels so singular and like no one can understand you just lost your house you know Who the hell could possibly understand that except the 10,000 other people you said who lost their lives?

There's the person just up the hill from you who's fine.

There's the person just up the hill from you who's fine.

There's the person just up the hill from you who's fine.

How do you not hate them for that luck of being slightly uphill? But finding community, finding people, and be able to just talk about not just the thing that happened, but the fear it brings up. And to reconnect not only with the fact that everyone is in some kind of grief, that is part of the human condition. One of the songs, I don't tend to, I'm not singing toad songs at these things.

How do you not hate them for that luck of being slightly uphill? But finding community, finding people, and be able to just talk about not just the thing that happened, but the fear it brings up. And to reconnect not only with the fact that everyone is in some kind of grief, that is part of the human condition. One of the songs, I don't tend to, I'm not singing toad songs at these things.