Glen Phillips

And I mean, I think that's one of the things that drives people to do things like dancing the Sundance or other forms of sacrificial prayer or the Catholic, or ayahuasca, or like things that are... difficult and painful, but also provide a like a spiritual container in which you can together remember that it's possible to come back to something. Yeah, it's grief work is a fascinating thing.

And I mean, I think that's one of the things that drives people to do things like dancing the Sundance or other forms of sacrificial prayer or the Catholic, or ayahuasca, or like things that are... difficult and painful, but also provide a like a spiritual container in which you can together remember that it's possible to come back to something. Yeah, it's grief work is a fascinating thing.

And I feel lucky that It was my entire life. Like post-divorce, I think I didn't like divorce literature. It was all kind of relational. I started reading more. I got into David White, Mary Oliver, but I was also reading the book Die Wise. What is his name? He's a Canadian death specialist.

And I feel lucky that It was my entire life. Like post-divorce, I think I didn't like divorce literature. It was all kind of relational. I started reading more. I got into David White, Mary Oliver, but I was also reading the book Die Wise. What is his name? He's a Canadian death specialist.

And I feel lucky that It was my entire life. Like post-divorce, I think I didn't like divorce literature. It was all kind of relational. I started reading more. I got into David White, Mary Oliver, but I was also reading the book Die Wise. What is his name? He's a Canadian death specialist.

I started reading a lot about death and grief because I felt grief was the actual material for what I was going through. And I don't, I feel like for at least a decade, that was the core of my identity was grief. And it's still in there, but it's less acute. And life does go on until it doesn't. And I fell in love. I got to a point where I actually wanted to get married again.

I started reading a lot about death and grief because I felt grief was the actual material for what I was going through. And I don't, I feel like for at least a decade, that was the core of my identity was grief. And it's still in there, but it's less acute. And life does go on until it doesn't. And I fell in love. I got to a point where I actually wanted to get married again.

I started reading a lot about death and grief because I felt grief was the actual material for what I was going through. And I don't, I feel like for at least a decade, that was the core of my identity was grief. And it's still in there, but it's less acute. And life does go on until it doesn't. And I fell in love. I got to a point where I actually wanted to get married again.

Where I had enough trust in the future and in my future and in happiness and love that I could do something as audacious as that.

Where I had enough trust in the future and in my future and in happiness and love that I could do something as audacious as that.

Where I had enough trust in the future and in my future and in happiness and love that I could do something as audacious as that.

It was interesting. I listened to a lot of breakup albums. It took me... a while to write that and a while to put it out. And, There are a couple songs about breaking up, maybe leaving old town. Like, a few of them are directly, it's mostly about grief.

It was interesting. I listened to a lot of breakup albums. It took me... a while to write that and a while to put it out. And, There are a couple songs about breaking up, maybe leaving old town. Like, a few of them are directly, it's mostly about grief.

It was interesting. I listened to a lot of breakup albums. It took me... a while to write that and a while to put it out. And, There are a couple songs about breaking up, maybe leaving old town. Like, a few of them are directly, it's mostly about grief.

And lost home.

And lost home.

And lost home.

The home. And it's, that's profound. And an entire identity of self. Yeah. And it's... Those songs, and by trying to make it more universal, though, I mean, that's the thing about that album. I think it's the best thing I've ever made, personally. I'm really proud of that record. And on the song Grief or Praise, it's once again, people don't... I'm not on the charts.

The home. And it's, that's profound. And an entire identity of self. Yeah. And it's... Those songs, and by trying to make it more universal, though, I mean, that's the thing about that album. I think it's the best thing I've ever made, personally. I'm really proud of that record. And on the song Grief or Praise, it's once again, people don't... I'm not on the charts.

The home. And it's, that's profound. And an entire identity of self. Yeah. And it's... Those songs, and by trying to make it more universal, though, I mean, that's the thing about that album. I think it's the best thing I've ever made, personally. I'm really proud of that record. And on the song Grief or Praise, it's once again, people don't... I'm not on the charts.