Glenn Greenwald

And spying on Americans without warrants in ways that Obama's national security DNI, his chief intelligence officer, James Clapper, falsely denied to Congress that they were doing. And he felt duty bound to come forward and let his fellow citizens know. And some of the programs we were able to reveal as a result of what he did. Ended up being declared both unconstitutional and illegal.

And none of the people on this committee are angry about that. They're only angry at him for having exposed it because these people on this committee have supreme loyalty to the part of our government that's secret and that has been abusing its power, which is why President Trump picked her.

And none of the people on this committee are angry about that. They're only angry at him for having exposed it because these people on this committee have supreme loyalty to the part of our government that's secret and that has been abusing its power, which is why President Trump picked her.

And none of the people on this committee are angry about that. They're only angry at him for having exposed it because these people on this committee have supreme loyalty to the part of our government that's secret and that has been abusing its power, which is why President Trump picked her.

to go in and confront that the other thing i want to say megan this idea of who's a traitor or not being a traitor means you tried to betray your country you tried to harm your country and help your enemies edward stone didn't have this this archive of of information that he was entitled to have he had classified uh top secret uh security clearance think of all the things he could have done with that archive he could have sold it to some foreign government or some group of non-state actors that made a huge amount of money he could have passed it secretly

to go in and confront that the other thing i want to say megan this idea of who's a traitor or not being a traitor means you tried to betray your country you tried to harm your country and help your enemies edward stone didn't have this this archive of of information that he was entitled to have he had classified uh top secret uh security clearance think of all the things he could have done with that archive he could have sold it to some foreign government or some group of non-state actors that made a huge amount of money he could have passed it secretly

to go in and confront that the other thing i want to say megan this idea of who's a traitor or not being a traitor means you tried to betray your country you tried to harm your country and help your enemies edward stone didn't have this this archive of of information that he was entitled to have he had classified uh top secret uh security clearance think of all the things he could have done with that archive he could have sold it to some foreign government or some group of non-state actors that made a huge amount of money he could have passed it secretly

to America's enemies. He could have dumped it all on the internet without regard to what it was exposing. He did none of that. He came to American journalists, myself, who was working at The Guardian, Laura Poitras, who was working with The Washington Post, and he said, I only want you to reveal what is necessary to reveal that's in the public interest for Americans to know.

to America's enemies. He could have dumped it all on the internet without regard to what it was exposing. He did none of that. He came to American journalists, myself, who was working at The Guardian, Laura Poitras, who was working with The Washington Post, and he said, I only want you to reveal what is necessary to reveal that's in the public interest for Americans to know.

to America's enemies. He could have dumped it all on the internet without regard to what it was exposing. He did none of that. He came to American journalists, myself, who was working at The Guardian, Laura Poitras, who was working with The Washington Post, and he said, I only want you to reveal what is necessary to reveal that's in the public interest for Americans to know.

And all the decisions that were made about what got released and what weren't were decisions that we as journalists made. He played no role in deciding what was released and what wasn't. And the vast majority of the archive to this very day was never released because we acted in accordance with his very conservative views about how the archive should be treated.

And all the decisions that were made about what got released and what weren't were decisions that we as journalists made. He played no role in deciding what was released and what wasn't. And the vast majority of the archive to this very day was never released because we acted in accordance with his very conservative views about how the archive should be treated.

And all the decisions that were made about what got released and what weren't were decisions that we as journalists made. He played no role in deciding what was released and what wasn't. And the vast majority of the archive to this very day was never released because we acted in accordance with his very conservative views about how the archive should be treated.

So again, you can dispute things he did, say he should have done things in a different path, but the idea that he was a traitor when he could have done so many things to harm the United States and everything he did was about protecting the privacy rights of American citizens is guaranteed by the Constitution that courts said were being violated.

So again, you can dispute things he did, say he should have done things in a different path, but the idea that he was a traitor when he could have done so many things to harm the United States and everything he did was about protecting the privacy rights of American citizens is guaranteed by the Constitution that courts said were being violated.

So again, you can dispute things he did, say he should have done things in a different path, but the idea that he was a traitor when he could have done so many things to harm the United States and everything he did was about protecting the privacy rights of American citizens is guaranteed by the Constitution that courts said were being violated.

That's why Tulsi defended him, not because she believed everything he did was perfect, but because she knew that he was the only person with the courage to come forward and risk his liberty and risk his life, which he did in a very courageous way, simply to let American citizens know what their government was doing to them in the dark.

That's why Tulsi defended him, not because she believed everything he did was perfect, but because she knew that he was the only person with the courage to come forward and risk his liberty and risk his life, which he did in a very courageous way, simply to let American citizens know what their government was doing to them in the dark.

That's why Tulsi defended him, not because she believed everything he did was perfect, but because she knew that he was the only person with the courage to come forward and risk his liberty and risk his life, which he did in a very courageous way, simply to let American citizens know what their government was doing to them in the dark.

And I think this kind of histrionics about demanding that he should call him a traitor Which is ridiculous. And the one last point I wanted to make, Megan, quickly, if I could. I know Tulsi. I have a lot of respect for her, even though I disagree with her. I think I was just talking to your team about this.