Glenn Greenwald

And then they turn around and wonder, why is nobody listening to us? Why is everybody turning us off? Why does everybody distrust us? And they complain about this endlessly. The fact that, oh, there are these other podcasts and independent media that people turn to and they're so angry about it. They think it's so dangerous that no one listens to them anymore. They never look inward.

And then they turn around and wonder, why is nobody listening to us? Why is everybody turning us off? Why does everybody distrust us? And they complain about this endlessly. The fact that, oh, there are these other podcasts and independent media that people turn to and they're so angry about it. They think it's so dangerous that no one listens to them anymore. They never look inward.

And then they turn around and wonder, why is nobody listening to us? Why is everybody turning us off? Why does everybody distrust us? And they complain about this endlessly. The fact that, oh, there are these other podcasts and independent media that people turn to and they're so angry about it. They think it's so dangerous that no one listens to them anymore. They never look inward.

She should just look at that one interview she did, just that one. And the answer lies right in there. Right. So, so flagrantly.

She should just look at that one interview she did, just that one. And the answer lies right in there. Right. So, so flagrantly.

She should just look at that one interview she did, just that one. And the answer lies right in there. Right. So, so flagrantly.

Well, just add one thing like on what you said with that interview with Ta-Nehisi Coates and even going back to Kirsten Walker's interview of Doug Burgum. I actually think that journalists should be adversarial when they're interviewing people that way. The problem is they have to be adversarial to everybody. That's supposed to be the role. People with influence, people who come on.

Well, just add one thing like on what you said with that interview with Ta-Nehisi Coates and even going back to Kirsten Walker's interview of Doug Burgum. I actually think that journalists should be adversarial when they're interviewing people that way. The problem is they have to be adversarial to everybody. That's supposed to be the role. People with influence, people who come on.

Well, just add one thing like on what you said with that interview with Ta-Nehisi Coates and even going back to Kirsten Walker's interview of Doug Burgum. I actually think that journalists should be adversarial when they're interviewing people that way. The problem is they have to be adversarial to everybody. That's supposed to be the role. People with influence, people who come on.

And if you're only adversarial when one view is being expressed, but not the other, that's when questions arise. That's your agenda. I bring this up every time, not to praise you, but just because it's true. Like I remember back in 2014, 2015, when I didn't even know you and there was a political profile of you.

And if you're only adversarial when one view is being expressed, but not the other, that's when questions arise. That's your agenda. I bring this up every time, not to praise you, but just because it's true. Like I remember back in 2014, 2015, when I didn't even know you and there was a political profile of you.

And if you're only adversarial when one view is being expressed, but not the other, that's when questions arise. That's your agenda. I bring this up every time, not to praise you, but just because it's true. Like I remember back in 2014, 2015, when I didn't even know you and there was a political profile of you.

And that's one of the things I said about you was like, just take a look at how she interviews Republican politicians. I know you loved DeSantis during the campaign, but interviewed him extremely aggressively because that's your job. And the problem is so often they don't do that job. They do it only for politicized ends, not journalistic ones.

And that's one of the things I said about you was like, just take a look at how she interviews Republican politicians. I know you loved DeSantis during the campaign, but interviewed him extremely aggressively because that's your job. And the problem is so often they don't do that job. They do it only for politicized ends, not journalistic ones.

And that's one of the things I said about you was like, just take a look at how she interviews Republican politicians. I know you loved DeSantis during the campaign, but interviewed him extremely aggressively because that's your job. And the problem is so often they don't do that job. They do it only for politicized ends, not journalistic ones.

As for the whole, we should have covered this more, she's of course right. But I think there needed to be a discussion, because it's a little bit easy to say now, about why wasn't there more coverage of that? There were a couple of reporters who were trying, like Alex Thompson at Axios. Oh, sorry, Axios. Yeah, one of them. You might as well just confuse them. They're the same.

As for the whole, we should have covered this more, she's of course right. But I think there needed to be a discussion, because it's a little bit easy to say now, about why wasn't there more coverage of that? There were a couple of reporters who were trying, like Alex Thompson at Axios. Oh, sorry, Axios. Yeah, one of them. You might as well just confuse them. They're the same.

As for the whole, we should have covered this more, she's of course right. But I think there needed to be a discussion, because it's a little bit easy to say now, about why wasn't there more coverage of that? There were a couple of reporters who were trying, like Alex Thompson at Axios. Oh, sorry, Axios. Yeah, one of them. You might as well just confuse them. They're the same.

But yeah, Alex Thompson, I think he's at Axios now. He was at Politico. He was on this for a long time.

But yeah, Alex Thompson, I think he's at Axios now. He was at Politico. He was on this for a long time.