Glenn Greenwald

Exactly, exactly.

You know, I've been doing journalism for 20 years now.

I've been paying as a result, very close attention to politics and it's a passion of mine.

It's something I really love.

The very first thing that ever made me have like even a glimmer of wanting to turn away is the way in which Democrats have decided that because it worked for Trump, they're now supposed to be

kind of like loose with their language and show how cool they are and how they don't speak like DC politicians.

They have all these consultants advising them on what to do.

And AOC is a particularly horrible case of it because when she was elected, she was 27.

It's like a very young generation.

She's now like heading into her mid to late 30s, heading into 40 years old.

And she's still trying on top of like that really cringy democratic effort to sound like

you know, like playful and relatable and cool to kind of have it infused with this very young internet jargon.

And it's just the worst of all combinations.

And I also don't understand why if you are, you know, like a liberal outlet, which of course this is trying to produce polling numbers that suggest that someone who has no chance to be president could actually credibly run.

When it seems so counterproductive, like why would you want to build up somebody with a fake pole who you know will get destroyed?

So it just, the whole thing seems so bizarre to me.

Do you think that you'll beat, that you could beat J.D.

Vance in a head-to-head race for president as polling suggests in 2028?

That's what I mean, Megan.

If I really have to continue to watch Democrats behaving in this manner, I don't know if I can take it.