Glenn Greenwald

The next administration definitely did that with Watergate, for example.

They kept thinking it would be something.

People will just say, OK, well, we don't have it all, but we have enough.

And that's clearly what the Trump administration is gambling on.

They've released a lot, but there's still immense amounts that they continue to conceal.

And I think they're hoping with time lapsing and people losing attention span and this new war that we'll all kind of just forget about it and say, well, we got to know.

Well, yeah, and I would say justified with so.

I mean, it's a major, massive new war that's unbelievably dangerous and costly on every level.

And our attention should be paid to that, I think, principally, because of just how quickly these sorts of things can escalate, get out of hand, turn into protracted conflicts.

So, yeah, but we shouldn't forget about other things, including the Epstein Files.

Well, I mean, just like look at China, just for as an example, China in the last 20 years, by everybody's agreement, has become a major world power competing with the United States on pretty much every level, technological, militarily, politically, economically, displacing the United States and Europe and regions around the world that the United States traditionally has dominated.

Yielded a lot of power like Africa and Latin America and other places.

And yet China has not fought a war, has not had a single war in the last 48 years.

You have to go back to 1979 when China had a war and that was a one month border dispute with Vietnam.

Look at how many wars we've had in the interim.

And it turns out you can do a lot of extraordinary things if you don't just go around the world, bombing countries, invading countries and trying to get their government.

You can instead use those resources to improve your own country, building massive high speed rail that connects all your cities, you know, on and on and on.

All the things that China has so remarkably done in a lot of ways surpassed the United States.

So we're supposed to have this idea that war is a last resort, war is hell, all these cliches that have a basis in truth.

And yet, if you kind of step outside the United States, I've obviously lived outside the United States for quite a while now, you can start realizing things that seem normalized and customary in your culture that are, in fact, very operational.