Glenn Greenwald

Yeah, you know, Megan, I'm sure you remember, you know, like in the 80s, they sent the first woman into space on the Columbia spaceship, which ended up being, you know, tragically destroyed. And they picked a teacher from New Hampshire, Krista McCullough. Krista McCullough. Yeah, she wasn't spending... you know, millions of dollars. She wasn't like a pop star or a TV star.

She was chosen precisely because she represented the ordinary American. And the idea was we want to open this, you know, transformative experience to ordinary people. This is exactly the opposite what they ended up doing. And also for Gayle King to talk about her, like she's some sort of feminist pioneer, like she's the first person ever to go into space.

She was chosen precisely because she represented the ordinary American. And the idea was we want to open this, you know, transformative experience to ordinary people. This is exactly the opposite what they ended up doing. And also for Gayle King to talk about her, like she's some sort of feminist pioneer, like she's the first person ever to go into space.

She was chosen precisely because she represented the ordinary American. And the idea was we want to open this, you know, transformative experience to ordinary people. This is exactly the opposite what they ended up doing. And also for Gayle King to talk about her, like she's some sort of feminist pioneer, like she's the first person ever to go into space.

When, as I said, you had Christian McCullough, but also like a good number now of, like actual trained female astronauts who go into space, I mean, is it really surprising that people reacted in the way that they're reacting?

When, as I said, you had Christian McCullough, but also like a good number now of, like actual trained female astronauts who go into space, I mean, is it really surprising that people reacted in the way that they're reacting?

When, as I said, you had Christian McCullough, but also like a good number now of, like actual trained female astronauts who go into space, I mean, is it really surprising that people reacted in the way that they're reacting?

Yeah, you know, I think that the people who actually make the biggest differences in terms of, you know, we have a conception of what this particular kind of job entails, even in politics or an industry or whatever, you know, a CEO is a man and then you have the first CEO as a woman.

Yeah, you know, I think that the people who actually make the biggest differences in terms of, you know, we have a conception of what this particular kind of job entails, even in politics or an industry or whatever, you know, a CEO is a man and then you have the first CEO as a woman.

Yeah, you know, I think that the people who actually make the biggest differences in terms of, you know, we have a conception of what this particular kind of job entails, even in politics or an industry or whatever, you know, a CEO is a man and then you have the first CEO as a woman.

The people who make the actual differences are the people who just go and do their jobs and aren't constantly banging on the table and demanding attention and saying, isn't it amazing that even though I'm a woman, I've been able to become the CEO? You know, you have gay people in public life who just go into public life, are open about it, but don't call attention to it.

The people who make the actual differences are the people who just go and do their jobs and aren't constantly banging on the table and demanding attention and saying, isn't it amazing that even though I'm a woman, I've been able to become the CEO? You know, you have gay people in public life who just go into public life, are open about it, but don't call attention to it.

The people who make the actual differences are the people who just go and do their jobs and aren't constantly banging on the table and demanding attention and saying, isn't it amazing that even though I'm a woman, I've been able to become the CEO? You know, you have gay people in public life who just go into public life, are open about it, but don't call attention to it.

You have black people who do that. What this was, was it was almost like a parody of a social justice crusade. We're going to get these six women, none of whom have the slightest experience, whose only qualification is that they are women. We're purposely going to make it an all-woman fight so we can celebrate feminism. And it always ends up being so artificial and so contrived.

You have black people who do that. What this was, was it was almost like a parody of a social justice crusade. We're going to get these six women, none of whom have the slightest experience, whose only qualification is that they are women. We're purposely going to make it an all-woman fight so we can celebrate feminism. And it always ends up being so artificial and so contrived.

You have black people who do that. What this was, was it was almost like a parody of a social justice crusade. We're going to get these six women, none of whom have the slightest experience, whose only qualification is that they are women. We're purposely going to make it an all-woman fight so we can celebrate feminism. And it always ends up being so artificial and so contrived.

And of course, then to add the ultimate victim of somebody who's a survivor of sexual assault, It just is the kind of thing that I think ends up being counterproductive because it creates this perception of women as people who can only make achievements if there's some special carve out for them, if they assume a victim role.

And of course, then to add the ultimate victim of somebody who's a survivor of sexual assault, It just is the kind of thing that I think ends up being counterproductive because it creates this perception of women as people who can only make achievements if there's some special carve out for them, if they assume a victim role.

And of course, then to add the ultimate victim of somebody who's a survivor of sexual assault, It just is the kind of thing that I think ends up being counterproductive because it creates this perception of women as people who can only make achievements if there's some special carve out for them, if they assume a victim role.

It's kind of a very regressive way, actually, of looking at the role of women. all sorts of people who didn't use to perform these kinds of jobs. Whereas the ones who I think actually make the biggest difference are the ones who just go and be astronauts and go into space and do their job without constantly calling attention to what their demographic is.