Glenn Greenwald

Right. You're absolutely right. He's at the apex. The question is, is he without constraints? I mean, in 2008, the Supreme Court in the Bumadini case actually did rule that the detainees at Guantanamo had a one-time right of habeas corpus to go into a federal court and argue that their detention was unjust, even though we basically were treating that as a war, the war on terror.

Right. You're absolutely right. He's at the apex. The question is, is he without constraints? I mean, in 2008, the Supreme Court in the Bumadini case actually did rule that the detainees at Guantanamo had a one-time right of habeas corpus to go into a federal court and argue that their detention was unjust, even though we basically were treating that as a war, the war on terror.

Right. You're absolutely right. He's at the apex. The question is, is he without constraints? I mean, in 2008, the Supreme Court in the Bumadini case actually did rule that the detainees at Guantanamo had a one-time right of habeas corpus to go into a federal court and argue that their detention was unjust, even though we basically were treating that as a war, the war on terror.

I guess what I'm saying is if all a president has to do is treat any kind of criminality or any kind of social problem and just declares it to be a war, like an actual invasion or a war, I don't think this is the sort of thing that most Americans think of when we think of wars being at war or the kind of precedent that has traditionally recognized this power.

I guess what I'm saying is if all a president has to do is treat any kind of criminality or any kind of social problem and just declares it to be a war, like an actual invasion or a war, I don't think this is the sort of thing that most Americans think of when we think of wars being at war or the kind of precedent that has traditionally recognized this power.

I guess what I'm saying is if all a president has to do is treat any kind of criminality or any kind of social problem and just declares it to be a war, like an actual invasion or a war, I don't think this is the sort of thing that most Americans think of when we think of wars being at war or the kind of precedent that has traditionally recognized this power.

I don't necessarily disagree with your prediction about what the court's going to do, the Supreme Court is going to do. This is a Supreme Court that has given great deference to presidential power, especially when it comes to foreign policy more, not just now, but as you say, historically. The one thing I want to quibble with, though, is that I remember being told that

I don't necessarily disagree with your prediction about what the court's going to do, the Supreme Court is going to do. This is a Supreme Court that has given great deference to presidential power, especially when it comes to foreign policy more, not just now, but as you say, historically. The one thing I want to quibble with, though, is that I remember being told that

I don't necessarily disagree with your prediction about what the court's going to do, the Supreme Court is going to do. This is a Supreme Court that has given great deference to presidential power, especially when it comes to foreign policy more, not just now, but as you say, historically. The one thing I want to quibble with, though, is that I remember being told that

that we don't need to worry about Guantanamo because it was only the worst of the worst that were being put there. They were all terrorists. The government knew they were terrorists. And it turned out a lot of the people, not just a few, but a lot of the people who were put there ended up being falsely accused, which is always going to happen. Now, maybe we say, look, we don't care between...

that we don't need to worry about Guantanamo because it was only the worst of the worst that were being put there. They were all terrorists. The government knew they were terrorists. And it turned out a lot of the people, not just a few, but a lot of the people who were put there ended up being falsely accused, which is always going to happen. Now, maybe we say, look, we don't care between...

that we don't need to worry about Guantanamo because it was only the worst of the worst that were being put there. They were all terrorists. The government knew they were terrorists. And it turned out a lot of the people, not just a few, but a lot of the people who were put there ended up being falsely accused, which is always going to happen. Now, maybe we say, look, we don't care between...

you know, allowing people to be in our country and just punishing them unjustly based on false accusations. We prefer the latter. But I do think, you know, because deportations usually, which nobody objects to, that's what Trump ran on, means taking these people and sending them back to their country of origin, but they're not put in a prison.

you know, allowing people to be in our country and just punishing them unjustly based on false accusations. We prefer the latter. But I do think, you know, because deportations usually, which nobody objects to, that's what Trump ran on, means taking these people and sending them back to their country of origin, but they're not put in a prison.

you know, allowing people to be in our country and just punishing them unjustly based on false accusations. We prefer the latter. But I do think, you know, because deportations usually, which nobody objects to, that's what Trump ran on, means taking these people and sending them back to their country of origin, but they're not put in a prison.

Here they're being sent to, on purpose, one of the most repressive prison systems in the world, which is the drug dealing and terrorism prison in El Salvador. And if they're not really gang members, If they're just in the country illegally, is that a just outcome? And is that an outcome that even if it's unjust, we're willing to live with for the ability to solve the broader problem?

Here they're being sent to, on purpose, one of the most repressive prison systems in the world, which is the drug dealing and terrorism prison in El Salvador. And if they're not really gang members, If they're just in the country illegally, is that a just outcome? And is that an outcome that even if it's unjust, we're willing to live with for the ability to solve the broader problem?

Here they're being sent to, on purpose, one of the most repressive prison systems in the world, which is the drug dealing and terrorism prison in El Salvador. And if they're not really gang members, If they're just in the country illegally, is that a just outcome? And is that an outcome that even if it's unjust, we're willing to live with for the ability to solve the broader problem?

I'm not that convinced. I don't like people being unjustly accused or punished.

I'm not that convinced. I don't like people being unjustly accused or punished.