Glenn Weldon

And so this whole thing felt kind of stick thin.

I really like what you said, Glenn, about naturalism and that those are the moments when the boys are just being boys.

That's really effective, I think.

And I don't mean that in the dismissive way that we talk about boys' violence.

I just mean like, you know, boys at play.

You know, boys like acting as actual people would act rather than allegorical pieces in a well-known passion play.

I like that a lot.

But I think that their performances are maybe betrayed by the direction and the way that they're presented.

Simon is amazing when he's having these visions.

But he's presented in such a way that it's like, you know, he looks like Joan of Arc.

There are these trembling close-ups.

It's very, like, pastiche-like.

But you're shooting all of these...

characters as though they were holy relics.

Yeah.

There's a really stark sort of wanting to beatify the actions of these things.

So ironically, almost, this descent into tribalism and bestialism, that becomes kind of a holy human thing, right?

Now we're building a shrine and

To this meticulously color-coordinated war paint.

Yes.