Glennon

Some of us think, because we talked about this before, Glenn and Abby and me, that while cynicism feels unfortunate, like that's a bummer, it also feels like it's sadly more in line with reality. Just the way that things are and kind of a smarter way to live or how people who are smarter think. But you're about to find out a lot about that that is wrong.

Some of us think, because we talked about this before, Glenn and Abby and me, that while cynicism feels unfortunate, like that's a bummer, it also feels like it's sadly more in line with reality. Just the way that things are and kind of a smarter way to live or how people who are smarter think. But you're about to find out a lot about that that is wrong.

So Dr. Jamil Zaki is a professor of psychology at Stanford University and the director of the Stanford Social Neuroscience Lab. He trained at Columbia and Harvard studying empathy and kindness in the human brain. He is interested in how we can learn to connect better. Dr. Zaki is the author of The War for Kindness and most recently, Hope for Cynics. Thank you for being here.

So Dr. Jamil Zaki is a professor of psychology at Stanford University and the director of the Stanford Social Neuroscience Lab. He trained at Columbia and Harvard studying empathy and kindness in the human brain. He is interested in how we can learn to connect better. Dr. Zaki is the author of The War for Kindness and most recently, Hope for Cynics. Thank you for being here.

So Dr. Jamil Zaki is a professor of psychology at Stanford University and the director of the Stanford Social Neuroscience Lab. He trained at Columbia and Harvard studying empathy and kindness in the human brain. He is interested in how we can learn to connect better. Dr. Zaki is the author of The War for Kindness and most recently, Hope for Cynics. Thank you for being here.

This is so exciting for us.

This is so exciting for us.

This is so exciting for us.

Oh my gosh. We're going to talk about so much today and I would love to start. I've listened to a lot of interviews that you've given and I was surprised because I didn't hear...

Oh my gosh. We're going to talk about so much today and I would love to start. I've listened to a lot of interviews that you've given and I was surprised because I didn't hear...

Oh my gosh. We're going to talk about so much today and I would love to start. I've listened to a lot of interviews that you've given and I was surprised because I didn't hear...

Anyone talk to you about a meal, which we're talking about all the ways to live and how your view of the world determines the actual world you live in and the kind of life you have and your happiness and your joy and all of that. And you're a scientist, so it's all data. And it's also about having a beautiful life.

Anyone talk to you about a meal, which we're talking about all the ways to live and how your view of the world determines the actual world you live in and the kind of life you have and your happiness and your joy and all of that. And you're a scientist, so it's all data. And it's also about having a beautiful life.

Anyone talk to you about a meal, which we're talking about all the ways to live and how your view of the world determines the actual world you live in and the kind of life you have and your happiness and your joy and all of that. And you're a scientist, so it's all data. And it's also about having a beautiful life.

And it really, to me, was so beautiful how you grounded all of this in Emil's story because he had such a profoundly beautiful life. Will you just tell us a little bit about him before we start our conversation on the science and what it means for us?

And it really, to me, was so beautiful how you grounded all of this in Emil's story because he had such a profoundly beautiful life. Will you just tell us a little bit about him before we start our conversation on the science and what it means for us?

And it really, to me, was so beautiful how you grounded all of this in Emil's story because he had such a profoundly beautiful life. Will you just tell us a little bit about him before we start our conversation on the science and what it means for us?

You do it beautifully. The book is beautiful and I could feel you, but I could also feel Emile incredibly powerfully in the book. So you've done it. You've done it. Beautiful job. Can we start with, because we're going to talk about a lot of things, just can you tell us what cynicism is and then what we believe about cynicism that is not true, what it is and what it isn't?

You do it beautifully. The book is beautiful and I could feel you, but I could also feel Emile incredibly powerfully in the book. So you've done it. You've done it. Beautiful job. Can we start with, because we're going to talk about a lot of things, just can you tell us what cynicism is and then what we believe about cynicism that is not true, what it is and what it isn't?

You do it beautifully. The book is beautiful and I could feel you, but I could also feel Emile incredibly powerfully in the book. So you've done it. You've done it. Beautiful job. Can we start with, because we're going to talk about a lot of things, just can you tell us what cynicism is and then what we believe about cynicism that is not true, what it is and what it isn't?