Glennon

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Thank you for having me. Gia, we actually, you and I, also have a relationship you don't know about. Through Virginia? Yes. So you graduated from UVA undergrad the year that I graduated from Virginia Law, and I was there before you. Whoa. Yeah. And we were both double majors, including political and social thought, and we were both pi-fis. No way. Oh my God.

Thank you for having me. Gia, we actually, you and I, also have a relationship you don't know about. Through Virginia? Yes. So you graduated from UVA undergrad the year that I graduated from Virginia Law, and I was there before you. Whoa. Yeah. And we were both double majors, including political and social thought, and we were both pi-fis. No way. Oh my God.

Thank you for having me. Gia, we actually, you and I, also have a relationship you don't know about. Through Virginia? Yes. So you graduated from UVA undergrad the year that I graduated from Virginia Law, and I was there before you. Whoa. Yeah. And we were both double majors, including political and social thought, and we were both pi-fis. No way. Oh my God.

And so I think that that leads very naturally to this question of paradox, which is that, so I was, for example, going to hoes and bros parties on Saturday night and was a women's study major, was doing absurdly politically interesting upsetting now things and then going on Sunday to the prison to meet with women who had killed their abusers. Can you talk to us about paradox.

And so I think that that leads very naturally to this question of paradox, which is that, so I was, for example, going to hoes and bros parties on Saturday night and was a women's study major, was doing absurdly politically interesting upsetting now things and then going on Sunday to the prison to meet with women who had killed their abusers. Can you talk to us about paradox.

And so I think that that leads very naturally to this question of paradox, which is that, so I was, for example, going to hoes and bros parties on Saturday night and was a women's study major, was doing absurdly politically interesting upsetting now things and then going on Sunday to the prison to meet with women who had killed their abusers. Can you talk to us about paradox.

Oh God, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

Oh God, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

Oh God, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

I have some issues with the whole thing. About that paradox, though, I'm interested in this idea. You said that you looked down at people at the time who didn't have the sense to have shame about it. That was me. I didn't know. I did, actually. You're right. I 100% did. That was me. Which I get. It's like, you know, you're the captain of the cheerleading squad in high school.

I have some issues with the whole thing. About that paradox, though, I'm interested in this idea. You said that you looked down at people at the time who didn't have the sense to have shame about it. That was me. I didn't know. I did, actually. You're right. I 100% did. That was me. Which I get. It's like, you know, you're the captain of the cheerleading squad in high school.

I have some issues with the whole thing. About that paradox, though, I'm interested in this idea. You said that you looked down at people at the time who didn't have the sense to have shame about it. That was me. I didn't know. I did, actually. You're right. I 100% did. That was me. Which I get. It's like, you know, you're the captain of the cheerleading squad in high school.

You're the pi-fi at UVA. But I have the sense to have shame and know that there's something inherently complicated and bad about this.

You're the pi-fi at UVA. But I have the sense to have shame and know that there's something inherently complicated and bad about this.

You're the pi-fi at UVA. But I have the sense to have shame and know that there's something inherently complicated and bad about this.

Glennon's yours is, like, watching Real Housewives.

Glennon's yours is, like, watching Real Housewives.

Glennon's yours is, like, watching Real Housewives.

And I also think that there's an exceptionalism piece to this that I'm really interested in, which is that like, I'm not like a regular sorority girl. I'm not a regular Real Housewives watcher.