Goblin AKA Nick

Yeah.

Cause the entire way I got into podcasting was like going on other people's shows kind of like this and like getting fucked up.

Like I remember the first podcast I ever went on, uh, I was like nodding out in the chair at the end of it because I'd stayed up the night prior and I'd like packed a bunch of blow and Zans in my bag and flew out to LA and like was in my hotel railing them.

And then I ordered a bottle of wine.

Cause I was like,

dude, I got, I'm not ready to socialize, bro.

I'm only on Zans and Coke.

I got a fucking, I need a drink.

I'm not ready to talk yet.

So I start drinking and you know, that doesn't combine with those two things.

I mean,

I think I've definitely worked on that over the years and kind of, I think I just generally am not very good at socializing without drugs because it's what I've done for a decade.

And after I started doing less drugs and just smoking more weed, weed in itself makes me kind of more anxious in public places to begin with.

And then I'm already being like, fuck, I don't know how to talk to these people.

I'm not loose right now.

And I really kind of get stuck in my head about it and like,

I think that's something I'm going to probably struggle with for a long while from now too.

But I definitely noticed myself slowly like getting better about it.

Yeah.

That's how old are you?