Gordon Carrera

Plus, in a declassified club exclusive, we are joined by three people who are at the heart of the decision to go to war.

Former head of MI6, Richard Dearlove, Tony Blair's former communications director, Alistair Campbell, and former acting head of the CIA, Michael Morrell.

Thank you so much for those.

We are going to start with the UK, but we will get to the US.

Don't worry.

I should say, we're coming back to the CIA.

Yeah, the CIA won't get away with this one.

But it is interesting, isn't it?

Because I think you're absolutely right that what's so interesting is it's both intelligence services, but it's also, as we'll see in the next couple of episodes as well, the way in which the US and UK interact, which is really, really interesting in this

business is the same, especially when you're building or growing a team.

It's the risks you can't see or don't understand.

HP designs technology so devices, collaboration tools and security work together as a single system, helping teams keep everything running smoothly at home, in the office and out in the field.

With a team of business advisors, HP helps businesses of all sizes find technology that fits their needs and budget.

Let's start with the UK.

So the idea of making a public case actually first arrives back in April 2002, when the chairman of the Joint Intelligence Committee, John Scarlett, former MI6 officer, meets with someone called Alastair Campbell.

I don't know what happened to him, who was Tony Blair's director of communications.

He's faded into obscurity in the two plus decades since.

Yeah.

Everyone's got a podcast, David.

Don't say that.