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Gordon Carrera

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

They all thought Iraq had the WMD.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

But there is something different about going to war

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

On that basis, to make the decision to go to war and to use that as the basis for going to war when it's not true.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

And I think that is deeply consequential and disturbing for lots of reasons.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

Whereas actually, I think it was a more fundamental intelligence failure.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

Politicians were pressing the intelligence agencies for evidence to back something up, which they wanted to be true and thought was true.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

But it is the job of an intelligence agency-

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

to resist political pressure.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

So I think it's back to the, what is the intelligence failure?

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

I think there's three failures.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

There's the failure of analysis, the assumptions.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

There's the failure of collection.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

So that's the kind of new sources on trial, failure to validate, the failure to vet.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

And then there's a failure in the relationship between intelligence agencies and politicians in a failure to perhaps say to the politicians,

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

This is the limit of the intelligence.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

Don't go beyond that here and no further.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

This is what we know.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

This is what we know with confidence.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

This is what we don't know with confidence.

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158. The Road to Iraq:  George Bush's Unstoppable War (Ep 6)

And I think that is also the responsibility of intelligence agencies to do that with their political masters and to some extent to resist pressure.