Gordon Carrera

They're fine.

And he'd been basically coached or, you know, been in contact with Chalabi, who told him to tell this story.

I mean, it's a fairly basic thing.

I mean, if you're going to sound convincing, you need to take a hammer to your testicles if you're going to try that line, because otherwise someone's going to check.

Yeah, this is where it gets really interesting, I think, because the inspectors are technically UN inspectors, but a lot of them do come from the US and the UK.

And there's some very aggressive ones, a famous one called Scott Ritter, who are working quite closely with Washington.

And one of the things that, for instance, they're doing is targeting...

something called the Special Security Organization, which is Saddam's elite group of... Bodyguards is the wrong word, but it's the group designed to protect him, his palaces, and key institutions.

Now, the inspectors are saying that they think this group is being used to hide the WMD, particularly hide it in Saddam's presidential palaces.

And they are trying to use aggressive inspections to put it off balance

But of course, from the Iraqi side, they are very resistant to let inspectors into Saddam's presidential palaces because their job is to protect Saddam.

And they view the inspectors as spies who are gathering intelligence online.

about Saddam's palaces and his whereabouts and his security, which they can then use to target him as part of their plots.

So you see this tension and to some extent misunderstanding.

And to be fair to the Iraqis, they're kind of right because the UN inspectors are packed.

It's packed full of spies.

Now, I mean, I've heard stories about UNSCOM being used as cover to hide, you know, comms gear for spying and tracking equipment.

all these things and that the the US you know CIA and others and are using the inspectors to collect military targeting information so it's kind of true that the inspectors are more than just the inspectors because they're being supplied by countries who have their own agenda

Yeah.

So the tension is growing.