Gordon Chang

They're seeing the reaction of the United States and the West to the introduction of Chinese soldiers. And so it is not inconceivable, Mike, that we are going to see not only mercenaries, but we're going to see China actually fighting in Ukraine.

I know that sounds a little bit inconceivable, but, you know, we go back about six months and the idea of North Korea having, you know, 12, 13,000, you know, North Korean soldiers actually fighting in Ukraine, I mean... No one would have said, oh yeah, yeah, of course that's going to happen.

I know that sounds a little bit inconceivable, but, you know, we go back about six months and the idea of North Korea having, you know, 12, 13,000, you know, North Korean soldiers actually fighting in Ukraine, I mean... No one would have said, oh yeah, yeah, of course that's going to happen.

I know that sounds a little bit inconceivable, but, you know, we go back about six months and the idea of North Korea having, you know, 12, 13,000, you know, North Korean soldiers actually fighting in Ukraine, I mean... No one would have said, oh yeah, yeah, of course that's going to happen.

Well, it's not best friends forever, but it could be best friends for decades. And it is a relationship which is much stronger than most people thought. You know, we had a lot of very smart people in New York and Washington say, oh, you know, China and Russia will never get along. Well, okay. I don't care what happens in the year 2100. I care what happens right now.

Well, it's not best friends forever, but it could be best friends for decades. And it is a relationship which is much stronger than most people thought. You know, we had a lot of very smart people in New York and Washington say, oh, you know, China and Russia will never get along. Well, okay. I don't care what happens in the year 2100. I care what happens right now.

Well, it's not best friends forever, but it could be best friends for decades. And it is a relationship which is much stronger than most people thought. You know, we had a lot of very smart people in New York and Washington say, oh, you know, China and Russia will never get along. Well, okay. I don't care what happens in the year 2100. I care what happens right now.

And in the here and now, China is backing Russia almost to the hilt. You know, we see this with not only the elevated commodity purchases, which is the answers to the war, but China opened up its financial system to sanctioned Russian institutions. We got diplomatic support, propaganda support, weapons support.

And in the here and now, China is backing Russia almost to the hilt. You know, we see this with not only the elevated commodity purchases, which is the answers to the war, but China opened up its financial system to sanctioned Russian institutions. We got diplomatic support, propaganda support, weapons support.

And in the here and now, China is backing Russia almost to the hilt. You know, we see this with not only the elevated commodity purchases, which is the answers to the war, but China opened up its financial system to sanctioned Russian institutions. We got diplomatic support, propaganda support, weapons support.

We have Chinese soldiers in Ukraine, some of them mercenaries, some of them there with the sanction of Beijing. So, you know, Putin is very important to Xi Jinping. You know, and yes, he is the junior partner, but Vladimir Putin does things that China doesn't want to do itself. And so, Putin is absolutely essential to Chinese foreign policy as Xi Jinping sees it. So this is a proxy war.

We have Chinese soldiers in Ukraine, some of them mercenaries, some of them there with the sanction of Beijing. So, you know, Putin is very important to Xi Jinping. You know, and yes, he is the junior partner, but Vladimir Putin does things that China doesn't want to do itself. And so, Putin is absolutely essential to Chinese foreign policy as Xi Jinping sees it. So this is a proxy war.

We have Chinese soldiers in Ukraine, some of them mercenaries, some of them there with the sanction of Beijing. So, you know, Putin is very important to Xi Jinping. You know, and yes, he is the junior partner, but Vladimir Putin does things that China doesn't want to do itself. And so, Putin is absolutely essential to Chinese foreign policy as Xi Jinping sees it. So this is a proxy war.

And China is a combatant. We have got to recognize that. We have failed to recognize that. And we're not imposing costs on China for its support of that war effort. And, you know, to put this into context, We have China and Russia destabilizing North Africa, fueling insurgencies that look like wars. We have China with the same tactics supporting Iran in its assault on Israel.

And China is a combatant. We have got to recognize that. We have failed to recognize that. And we're not imposing costs on China for its support of that war effort. And, you know, to put this into context, We have China and Russia destabilizing North Africa, fueling insurgencies that look like wars. We have China with the same tactics supporting Iran in its assault on Israel.

And China is a combatant. We have got to recognize that. We have failed to recognize that. And we're not imposing costs on China for its support of that war effort. And, you know, to put this into context, We have China and Russia destabilizing North Africa, fueling insurgencies that look like wars. We have China with the same tactics supporting Iran in its assault on Israel.

We now have China's support for Pakistan in what could end up being a war. So this is China destabilizing the world. And to go back to the Point about trade. Trade allows China to do this. So if we trade with China, what we are doing is we are fueling the destabilization of the world. We're fueling all of these wars. And if we want peace...

We now have China's support for Pakistan in what could end up being a war. So this is China destabilizing the world. And to go back to the Point about trade. Trade allows China to do this. So if we trade with China, what we are doing is we are fueling the destabilization of the world. We're fueling all of these wars. And if we want peace...

We now have China's support for Pakistan in what could end up being a war. So this is China destabilizing the world. And to go back to the Point about trade. Trade allows China to do this. So if we trade with China, what we are doing is we are fueling the destabilization of the world. We're fueling all of these wars. And if we want peace...

Wir werden eine sehr schwierige Entscheidung machen und sagen, nein, wir werden nicht mit China handeln, weil wir keine generalische Kriege um die Welt wollen. Und das ist, wo wir gehen, Mike. Das sieht jetzt aus, als wären wir in den Anfangsstufen von der 3. Weltkrieg. Erinnere dich, in den 1930er-Jahren gab es verschiedene Kriege, die sich in was wir jetzt als 2. Weltkrieg bezeichnen.