Gordon Corera

That's right. On the plane, they're looking at the documents that he sent them, thousands of them, and they're realizing they're onto something big. These three eventually arrive in Hong Kong on June the 2nd, and it's agreed that initially just Greenwald and Poitras will go to meet Snowden on June the 3rd.

That's right. On the plane, they're looking at the documents that he sent them, thousands of them, and they're realizing they're onto something big. These three eventually arrive in Hong Kong on June the 2nd, and it's agreed that initially just Greenwald and Poitras will go to meet Snowden on June the 3rd.

That's right. On the plane, they're looking at the documents that he sent them, thousands of them, and they're realizing they're onto something big. These three eventually arrive in Hong Kong on June the 2nd, and it's agreed that initially just Greenwald and Poitras will go to meet Snowden on June the 3rd.

And it's interesting because he's left very specific spy-style instructions on how they're going to meet. And the instructions are they go to the third floor of the Mirror Hotel, go to a certain quiet alcove by the hotel restaurant, which is furnished, bizarre detail, with an alligator-skin-looking leather couch...

And it's interesting because he's left very specific spy-style instructions on how they're going to meet. And the instructions are they go to the third floor of the Mirror Hotel, go to a certain quiet alcove by the hotel restaurant, which is furnished, bizarre detail, with an alligator-skin-looking leather couch...

And it's interesting because he's left very specific spy-style instructions on how they're going to meet. And the instructions are they go to the third floor of the Mirror Hotel, go to a certain quiet alcove by the hotel restaurant, which is furnished, bizarre detail, with an alligator-skin-looking leather couch...

It looks like it might be alligator skin. They ask the first hotel employee near the room whether there was a restaurant open, and that would be a kind of signal to Snowden. He'd be hovering nearby, but they'd not been followed. And then they wait around for a guy with a Rubik's cube. His favorite thing. Well, they don't know what he looks like. No, they don't know. So exactly.

It looks like it might be alligator skin. They ask the first hotel employee near the room whether there was a restaurant open, and that would be a kind of signal to Snowden. He'd be hovering nearby, but they'd not been followed. And then they wait around for a guy with a Rubik's cube. His favorite thing. Well, they don't know what he looks like. No, they don't know. So exactly.

It looks like it might be alligator skin. They ask the first hotel employee near the room whether there was a restaurant open, and that would be a kind of signal to Snowden. He'd be hovering nearby, but they'd not been followed. And then they wait around for a guy with a Rubik's cube. His favorite thing. Well, they don't know what he looks like. No, they don't know. So exactly.

And to be fair, I guess it's a pretty good recognition thing, a Rubik's Cube, because it's not the kind of thing most grown people carry around with them. So the idea is it's one of the few recognizable things that he's brought with him. He can show it to them and they'll know who he is.

And to be fair, I guess it's a pretty good recognition thing, a Rubik's Cube, because it's not the kind of thing most grown people carry around with them. So the idea is it's one of the few recognizable things that he's brought with him. He can show it to them and they'll know who he is.

And to be fair, I guess it's a pretty good recognition thing, a Rubik's Cube, because it's not the kind of thing most grown people carry around with them. So the idea is it's one of the few recognizable things that he's brought with him. He can show it to them and they'll know who he is.

Well, you've got to make contact somehow. So anyway, first time at 10 o'clock, no one comes. They say the recognition words, no one comes. They go back again 20 minutes later, which is the kind of backup moment.

Well, you've got to make contact somehow. So anyway, first time at 10 o'clock, no one comes. They say the recognition words, no one comes. They go back again 20 minutes later, which is the kind of backup moment.

Well, you've got to make contact somehow. So anyway, first time at 10 o'clock, no one comes. They say the recognition words, no one comes. They go back again 20 minutes later, which is the kind of backup moment.

Exactly. I think the assumption is he's checking them at that first meeting. And that's why nothing happens then. And then this is from Glenn Greenwald in his memoir, No Place to Hide. At 10.20, we returned and again took our place near the alligator on the couch. Was there an alligator, like a stuffed alligator? I don't know. I'm stuck on this detail, Gordon.

Exactly. I think the assumption is he's checking them at that first meeting. And that's why nothing happens then. And then this is from Glenn Greenwald in his memoir, No Place to Hide. At 10.20, we returned and again took our place near the alligator on the couch. Was there an alligator, like a stuffed alligator? I don't know. I'm stuck on this detail, Gordon.

Exactly. I think the assumption is he's checking them at that first meeting. And that's why nothing happens then. And then this is from Glenn Greenwald in his memoir, No Place to Hide. At 10.20, we returned and again took our place near the alligator on the couch. Was there an alligator, like a stuffed alligator? I don't know. I'm stuck on this detail, Gordon.

Was it an alligator skin couch or was it a couch that looked like an alligator? I don't know. I don't know. Maybe someone can tell us who stayed at the hotel, which faced the back wall of the room and a large mirror. After two minutes, I heard someone come into the room.

Was it an alligator skin couch or was it a couch that looked like an alligator? I don't know. I don't know. Maybe someone can tell us who stayed at the hotel, which faced the back wall of the room and a large mirror. After two minutes, I heard someone come into the room.