Gordon Corera

And so anyway, they're surprised by it. They exchange the recognition phrase, what time does the restaurant open? At noon, but don't go there. The food sucks, Snowden says. Greenwald actually, according to Luke Harding's book on this, you know, he's a Guardian journalist. He says Greenwald struggled to keep a straight face because he found it all slightly comic.

And so anyway, they're surprised by it. They exchange the recognition phrase, what time does the restaurant open? At noon, but don't go there. The food sucks, Snowden says. Greenwald actually, according to Luke Harding's book on this, you know, he's a Guardian journalist. He says Greenwald struggled to keep a straight face because he found it all slightly comic.

But the three of them head off towards the lift, not saying anything. It's an elevator. Yeah. An elevator lift. For our American listeners. Thank you. And they go to room 1014. Now, this is the scene. I mean, this is the place where it's really going to happen for the next few days between those three journalists and Snowden. But of course, Snowden's already been there 10 days.

But the three of them head off towards the lift, not saying anything. It's an elevator. Yeah. An elevator lift. For our American listeners. Thank you. And they go to room 1014. Now, this is the scene. I mean, this is the place where it's really going to happen for the next few days between those three journalists and Snowden. But of course, Snowden's already been there 10 days.

But the three of them head off towards the lift, not saying anything. It's an elevator. Yeah. An elevator lift. For our American listeners. Thank you. And they go to room 1014. Now, this is the scene. I mean, this is the place where it's really going to happen for the next few days between those three journalists and Snowden. But of course, Snowden's already been there 10 days.

And so there's room service plates, there's trash, you know, there's noodle containers, half-eaten burgers, there's dirty laundry, there's damp towels on the floor. He's barely left the room.

And so there's room service plates, there's trash, you know, there's noodle containers, half-eaten burgers, there's dirty laundry, there's damp towels on the floor. He's barely left the room.

And so there's room service plates, there's trash, you know, there's noodle containers, half-eaten burgers, there's dirty laundry, there's damp towels on the floor. He's barely left the room.

It's like a teenage room. I mean, he's only been out of the room like three times in the nearly two weeks he'd been there. Wow. And so it's quite a small room and you can see it on Citizen Four, Laura Poitras' film. You know, it's not a big suite in which they're now going to be holed up together.

It's like a teenage room. I mean, he's only been out of the room like three times in the nearly two weeks he'd been there. Wow. And so it's quite a small room and you can see it on Citizen Four, Laura Poitras' film. You know, it's not a big suite in which they're now going to be holed up together.

It's like a teenage room. I mean, he's only been out of the room like three times in the nearly two weeks he'd been there. Wow. And so it's quite a small room and you can see it on Citizen Four, Laura Poitras' film. You know, it's not a big suite in which they're now going to be holed up together.

Yeah. Tremendous error on his part. Should have paid for it. So, you know, he tells them, put your phones away, put your phone in the minibar fridge. And then Snowden takes the pillows from the bed and he places them at the bottom of the door, which I guess is him thinking if someone's got a microphone outside, it's not going to pick up the sounds of what they're talking about.

Yeah. Tremendous error on his part. Should have paid for it. So, you know, he tells them, put your phones away, put your phone in the minibar fridge. And then Snowden takes the pillows from the bed and he places them at the bottom of the door, which I guess is him thinking if someone's got a microphone outside, it's not going to pick up the sounds of what they're talking about.

Yeah. Tremendous error on his part. Should have paid for it. So, you know, he tells them, put your phones away, put your phone in the minibar fridge. And then Snowden takes the pillows from the bed and he places them at the bottom of the door, which I guess is him thinking if someone's got a microphone outside, it's not going to pick up the sounds of what they're talking about.

But here we are, and they're going to be in this room for days, it's worth saying. Now, Ewan McCaskill, the Guardian journalist, comes on the second day because Snowden wasn't necessarily expecting him. He actually, you can see, actually takes a lot of the lead in the kind of questioning Snowden and trying to understand who he is. And, you know, Snowden sits on the bed and... White T-shirt.

But here we are, and they're going to be in this room for days, it's worth saying. Now, Ewan McCaskill, the Guardian journalist, comes on the second day because Snowden wasn't necessarily expecting him. He actually, you can see, actually takes a lot of the lead in the kind of questioning Snowden and trying to understand who he is. And, you know, Snowden sits on the bed and... White T-shirt.

But here we are, and they're going to be in this room for days, it's worth saying. Now, Ewan McCaskill, the Guardian journalist, comes on the second day because Snowden wasn't necessarily expecting him. He actually, you can see, actually takes a lot of the lead in the kind of questioning Snowden and trying to understand who he is. And, you know, Snowden sits on the bed and... White T-shirt.

White T-shirt.

White T-shirt.

White T-shirt.