Gordon Flett

I said, the next step is we go back and we see what's going on in those schools, starting with the leadership that it prioritizes the human relationship side, which then feeds into resilience and adaptability and

one school board i worked with by the way much of their interest initially was because they were having kids with behavioral problems including things that are not something you want from a lawful perspective and i said but what you find when you focus on mattering is that you'll address those behavioral problems you'll see that there's a mental health boost for most kids

But also, you'll see a payoff for those superintendents out there who are just worried about the bottom line in terms of test scores.

Test scores are higher too because, in fact, they're engaged.

They want to be there.

They're learning.

Mattering has a great learning and growth orientation that comes along with it, along with the hope.

So we could do things.

We could do things in business.

And I know that the US Surgeon General, Dr. Murthy, when he was in charge, had Mattering as one of the five pillars of

of workplace mental health as an extension of his work on loneliness and the loneliness epidemic.

So places that really embrace this are going to see the benefits in a way that, you know, and other people will want to be there.

That's the other thing in terms of attracting people and having your choice of who you'd like to have.

So there's so many things that can be done societally.

We just need to make it a priority once and for all, rather than talking about it.

Back in 2002, this big committee came up with the six keys to positive youth development.

And the support for efficacy and mattering was one of the six key components.

And then I traced it through.

And go, you know, well, what happened?

Well, much of that focused on the efficacy.