Gordon Ryan

No, no, no.

So he trains with the guys so he comes in to train him.

So he doesn't have a lot of looks.

He doesn't go to a normal gym and train, which I think is something that's important to do just for your personal journey in jiu-jitsu.

Yeah.

But if he... Like, we just opened a new school.

We just opened Kingsway.

And we have a bunch of black belts who come from other schools.

And, you know... He goes against them?

For the last, like, ten years, I'm used to being around... Like, a shitty black belt to me is, like, a guy I competed at a world level and I call my submission on.

That's, like, my, like, definition of a shitty black belt.

And you see like what your average black belt is that it kind of brings you back to reality you're like oh This is what most black belts are like if Derek rolled with like a regular black belt in the gym you do fine Maybe right

I didn't say I was really good at tennis.

You know what I'm saying?

If you're paying the guy.

I train with normal black belts at the gym, and I train with Derek when I go there.

I'm telling you, he would do fine against normal black belts.

Like, he's not going to go out and win worlds, but if he had to compete against an average black belt who's been doing jiu-jitsu for 10 years, and he does it for an hour at a random gym in Kentucky, he would probably beat him up, to be honest.

Like he's a 42 year old hobbyist who's worth a hundred million dollars and focuses on making money Yeah, and also trains four hours a day Everyone's giving him shit because he used it to market himself and was like you're too fucking stupid to get a black belt in three and a half Years and I'm not that's why everyone's upset about him.

Well, he does train hard every day.