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Grace Hsiao

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Grace Shao on What the World Should Know About Chinese AI

Honestly, energy is probably not the biggest bottleneck right now in China.

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Grace Shao on What the World Should Know About Chinese AI

And I think people like to say, well, some people like to say, oh, somehow the Chinese government had foresight on the AI boom driving like the energy consumption, but definitely not.

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Grace Shao on What the World Should Know About Chinese AI

I think people forget that China's economic growth over the last three to four decades also meant a rise of urbanization.

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Grace Shao on What the World Should Know About Chinese AI

And a lot of the cities that, you know, we are visiting these days, like at least Westerners are visiting like Beijing, Shanghai, Shenzhen with all these robots and EVs or whatnot.

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Grace Shao on What the World Should Know About Chinese AI

These were all really urbanized within the last two, three decades.

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Grace Shao on What the World Should Know About Chinese AI

And because of that, the grid is very new.

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Grace Shao on What the World Should Know About Chinese AI

And because of that, the government already foresaw that there was going to be a increase in energy demand and, you know,

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Grace Shao on What the World Should Know About Chinese AI

So a lot of the energy plants, you know, the solar plants, hydro plants, whatnot, were actually built out in anticipation for that.

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Grace Shao on What the World Should Know About Chinese AI

Now, obviously, this has coincided with now the AI boom and it's really helped out.

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Grace Shao on What the World Should Know About Chinese AI

Beyond that, you know, change.

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Grace Shao on What the World Should Know About Chinese AI

China has an advantage in the fact that they can actually drive top-down mandates and provincial governments will follow suit.

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Grace Shao on What the World Should Know About Chinese AI

This is something quite unique to China because it's not like decided by each state.

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Grace Shao on What the World Should Know About Chinese AI

So when they pushed out the East Data West Compute, where it's basically a top-down initiative where they built a ton of renewable energy for cheap in rural mountainous areas in Guizhou province, like even Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia, Sichuan, you know,

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Grace Shao on What the World Should Know About Chinese AI

Those were like very easily executed, frankly.

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Grace Shao on What the World Should Know About Chinese AI

And then 90% of the population actually sit on the eastern coastal lines.

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Grace Shao on What the World Should Know About Chinese AI

Like we think about Beijing, Tianjin, Shanghai, Shenzhen.

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Grace Shao on What the World Should Know About Chinese AI

That's all on east.

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Grace Shao on What the World Should Know About Chinese AI

So that's where the data comes from.

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Grace Shao on What the World Should Know About Chinese AI

So that kind of optimization has also really helped them, you know, with the low that is the demand right now.

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Grace Shao on What the World Should Know About Chinese AI

I'm not saying Merkur specifically, but supposedly there are these data providers that do this.