Graeme Wood

It attracted anyone who had that in mind.

They were able to travel there.

They were able to die there.

And a success that's that acute is followed by a long period of, you know, hard to top that, time to move on to a different thing.

And I find that, yeah, there's a lot of people in countries that I previously would have associated with that.

A lot of very harsh anti-Americanism where that seems to be treated as a previous generation's way of being political.

So it's definitely waned in that regard.

The other component here is Iran, where, again, it's been since 2014 when I was last in Iran and 2009 when I was last in Tehran.

But there, the positive views toward the United States are impossible to ignore as of then.

And I think that's still the case, where just as I think you've probably heard many times, you would meet people all the time who don't just say, I would move to the United States if I could, but who say, I have positive feelings toward the United States and would like to live in a society like that no matter where I am.

So I think that's real, and I don't know whether it survives this war.

Yes, I would love to go back as soon as possible.

It's a question of where to go.

I would like to go to Iran itself.

Some journalists are getting in, including from Western outlets.

I don't expect that that would be easy to do.

But

This is a regional war, and so I'm thinking pretty hard about where in the region one should go to see the sort of invisible aspects of what's going on.

There's places where Iranians have flowed across the border out of fear of war.

of war, and I'd love to talk to them.