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Graeme Wood

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263 total appearances

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The David Frum Show
Watching War From the Strait of Hormuz

War is a great big thing.

The David Frum Show
Watching War From the Strait of Hormuz

And if Iran is slowly developing ballistic missile capabilities, if it's slowly developing drone capabilities, then...

The David Frum Show
Watching War From the Strait of Hormuz

At what point is the exact moment when the United States should do something about it?

The David Frum Show
Watching War From the Strait of Hormuz

And every president before Trump has decided that that exact moment was postponable.

The David Frum Show
Watching War From the Strait of Hormuz

And they may have been right.

The David Frum Show
Watching War From the Strait of Hormuz

I mean, they all, in that sense, get an A grade because there was no war, there was no nuclear weapon in Iran.

The David Frum Show
Watching War From the Strait of Hormuz

And so they can hand it on off to their predecessor.

The David Frum Show
Watching War From the Strait of Hormuz

But anytime the war was going to happen, it was going to have to happen as a kind of judgment call about an accumulation of things rather than one thing that could be pointed to.

The David Frum Show
Watching War From the Strait of Hormuz

I think there are a couple of things that he might have been surprised by if that was the plan.

The David Frum Show
Watching War From the Strait of Hormuz

One is how deep you have to dig before you get to the clink, that almost anybody who was in the inner circle of Iranian politics was going to be very difficult to work with because they had not just blood on their hands, but they had been at the intersection of many different types of people.

The David Frum Show
Watching War From the Strait of Hormuz

immoral activity that's kind of irredeemable in some way.

The David Frum Show
Watching War From the Strait of Hormuz

So that's the first thing.

The David Frum Show
Watching War From the Strait of Hormuz

I have also spoken to Iranian exiles who have asked why that wasn't the policy.

The David Frum Show
Watching War From the Strait of Hormuz

Why wasn't he constantly looking for digging deep enough to find someone he could work with?

The David Frum Show
Watching War From the Strait of Hormuz

Because they say,

The David Frum Show
Watching War From the Strait of Hormuz

actually, it seems like he's not looking for that at all.

The David Frum Show
Watching War From the Strait of Hormuz

He's just digging and digging and digging and trying to discard as much of the regime as possible.

The David Frum Show
Watching War From the Strait of Hormuz

And that is why everybody's fighting to the death is because it appears that the only resolution that the United States would be happy with would be some kind of complete scalping of the regime to a very deep level and its replacement with the Shah or something like that.

The David Frum Show
Watching War From the Strait of Hormuz

And they say, if the United States had just

The David Frum Show
Watching War From the Strait of Hormuz

announced pretty early on or found a way pretty early on to get someone in the regime to defect, then they actually would have possibly been able to do that with a lot less loss of life.