Graham Hancock
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first heard Oct 2024
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And that's their possibility. And it reminds me a lot of the heresy hunters back in the 16th century. You know, the people who disagreed with their point of view got burned at the stake. Well, you don't get burned at the stake today, but you can get lynched by a mob of archaeologists.
It is absolutely the same thing.
That's the other thing I noticed, which was the sneering aspect. Attitude towards me. They talk about my, you know, my wife, Santa, taking tourist photos of the places that we've been to. Well, we've never been anywhere as tourists. We haven't had a holiday for 20 years. But the working trips that we do are very intense.
That's right.
Yeah, I know.
It's part of this desperate search to say we archaeologists know everything and we must discredit in any way we can anybody who has anything opposite to say. It's an unfortunate human characteristic.
This reliance on experts, I get it. I would like the pilot of my plane to be an expert pilot. I don't want him to be an amateur. But I don't think that archaeologists and aircraft pilots can be compared in that sense. Archaeology is a much more interpretive discipline. An aircraft pilot is not really interpreting situations that much. He knows what to do in such situations.
Archaeologists are interpreting the past and yet they seem to get very upset by other interpretations of the past that are offered that don't agree with theirs. And this is the problem of expertise in our society. Yes, expertise is very important. It's incredibly useful. But we should not place all our faith and trust in experts.
We need to liberate our own consciousness and freely think about things and make our own decisions about things and resist experts.
Well, that was part of our adventure with season two of Ancient Apocalypse, was working with a really professional team in Brazil, led by an archaeologist, Marti Parsonen from the University of Helsinki, and a geographer from Brazil, Alceu Ranzi. Al-Sayyou, years ago, was the first person who noticed that there are these huge geometrical structures emerging out of the Amazon jungle.
And he noticed it on a flight on a commercial aircraft in an area that happened to have been cleared by local farmers for planting crops, that there was this massive geometrical earthwork there. And that – he actually coined the term geoglyphs for these because he compared them in some ways with the Nazca lines, which again are really only visible from the air.
You get suddenly this massive scope and extent of these things. And it's the same with the geoglyphs in the Amazon. And here's the thing. The ones we know about up till now, we largely know about them because of these tragic clearances of the Amazon rainforest, which is maybe a short-term economic gain but is long-term really not a very good idea.
But now with LiDAR, it's possible to find these things without damaging any rainforest at all. And we had a LiDAR expert with us. And you can fly LiDAR off a drone now. That's amazing. Yeah. It's incredible. It's a pretty hefty drone. But they can fly anywhere. And we found – I say we. It was actually the LiDAR expert who found –
He found, you can see the edge of the rainforest where the clearances stop and the rainforest hasn't yet been interfered with. And then he flies over there. And within a matter of hours, he's found multiple more of these structures.
That are deep in the rainforest. Covered completely. Covered completely. And LIDAR allows him to see through the canopy and to see what's underneath it without damaging it. And there are these huge earthworks. And this raises the question, how much more is there in the Amazon to find?
Even the archaeologists who are most reluctant are now willing to accept that the Amazon had a huge population before the Spanish conquest. It's so wild. That's such a shift. Millions, cities. Yeah.
A whole different way of life, a whole different kind of civilization from the one that we have today, one that lived in a man-made garden, which is what the Amazon really and truly is, and lived in harmony with that.
Definitely. They've determined that because of the preponderance of trees that serve human needs. They call them hyperdominant. And things like Brazil nut trees, which are providing food for human beings, are in massive dominance in relation to trees that aren't useful to human beings. And it's clear that this is the result of a long-term human project to make this jungle serve human needs.
What was the other one? The ice cream bean? What was that? Ice cream bean. I'm forgetting all of the details, but there's a bunch of food plants, which are hyper-dominant in the Amazon rainforest. And these food plants show that human beings have been nurturing, have been massaging this natural wonder and turning it into something that really serves human needs.
Again, it was a great privilege to have the opportunity to stand in a pit of terra preta that is being excavated to get down 15 feet into that. Can they recreate it once they get it? It appears that modern – not modern but indigenous communities in the Amazon are still doing this. They're still doing it, mixing all kind of refuse and waste together and enriching the soil with it.
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